Unsure why they have even added a date since they took this away weeks ago and started "Burndown" either way i don't see us getting it this year. Sorry I don't. With all the issues and I know they will be working hard. But time it's taking to burndown and clear the blockers and serious issue even if they don't create anymore issues while fixing them (which won't happen many are created whilst fixing others) it would be 6-8 weeks anyway. But at the rate it's going and from knowledge I do have (my dad and brother are both long term developers, Dad software And brother Games) from all the info and what as fans and backers who follow every little thing can see, we all believe This needs at least 4-6 months to get it in the state CIG says they want it before they give it to backers. I just wish CIG where more honest about what they know. They are not stupid they know full well over the last 12 months everything they have said in the form of release dates was a pipe dream. As for Gamescom the 3 days stream was obvious they are no where close at all. They said they had to have everyone on the moon and restart every 15 mins and no QT is because of allowing the crowed to play which is perfectly understandabl, BUT the streamers and host had a separate server where they did not have to restart. Therefore they could of done much more. And I'm sorry but if a small group of developers had to build what we saw them play with the restrictions they had. Basically a empty dead moon a few buildings ships and guns that could be built at that detail in weeks maybe 3 months max With a team of 10. Why is this all we are seeing from a 400 man team with the amount of money they have had and that's what we get to see. As for CRoberts live event. What happened where is all the content. Dont get me wrong it looked good and has come a long way but, what we saw so little. No mission being completed, shown variations. So little content shown and no info given about future info not really. As a huge fan and followed for years and years played CRoberts games many years ago I'm 36 now I don't see me ever playing a full release of this game and if I do I'll be in my 40's. Im very disappointed and it's clear many many bug backers are too. All the info they highlighted and pushed was sales and a face tech FOIP which has been around for years. FaceRig anyone?. And before anyone says it's not as detailed we have used the software in FaceRig to run our own high detail life like characters. It's not complicated and it's not new tech. If you use it on high detail models then it looks better. And I saw people and staff saying it's never been in game before. Well it has many games have done it and could do it. Though it's not as detailed but even GTAV does it very well online with the lip sync. And there are plenty of free open source programs currently that people use right now in Star Citizen through their webcam to control the head movement and head tracking for in ship flight. And it works much better and not as sha as we where shown. Though im sure it will get much better over time. Just it seems it's just a push to sell your the camera they are selling. Which from what I've heard will cost around $200. This week was no new info no future plans (other than the face tracking camera which if you notice they were not using normal webcams they used the "special one") no info really about 3.1-4.0. Was pushed ships sales ships sales, ship sales. Get new players and don't care about the old ones. CRoberts said what he was showing us is the 3.0 build we getting then focused on all the stuff like FOIP and capital ship battle. And only because a confused person in the crowd as CRoberts "This is in 3.0?" To which CR said no Lol. All the stuff they focused on and pushed actually isn't in 3.0 and has no idea when. I mean come on. Actual 3.0 content we saw that we are going to get was a Crash in QT and a mission not completed, everything else was put in to hopefully make people happy but remember all the good looking stuff he showed us in the 3.0 build isn't actually coming in 3.0 I mean wtf?. I'm not going to waffle on about all the bug stuff and glitches most people didn't even see especially while they where walking around the station, because that's fine bugs and glitches is normal stuff. What I'm and many other are in happy about is all the rubbish we are being feed. Pushed and im sorry but it's how I feel. Between us in my family we have 5 accounts 35 ships and spent a lot of money. Well mostly my brother. I wont even say what he thought all week. While we watched live every stream and the CR main show. remember this is coming from a fan and a backer. I'm not a hater. It's how I feel. I never make threads or say anything but I wanted to vent. I'm sure this will either be deleted or just get some people who can't think for themselves just shit posting at me. If they ever manage to finish this game, which honestly I hope they do but realistically I don't think they ever will. I don't believe they will remove the ability to buy ships with real £$ however they do it. They have no way to monitise the game other than credits selling new concept ships. A game like this when all the money has gone and want to keep this game around for 10+ years After release with no selling ships or credits. I do t believe. A game like this with the staff even if they cut staff size once released the time it taken to make the game and how ever more years till full release 2020 ish maybe longer. They will have to always sell ships for $$$ no other way they can continue to pay wages bills and continue working on the game. I see many people thinking and saying no only way you'll be able to get ships is in game and hard work. And that CIG will remove all ability to buy ships in game so it's not a Pay2Win game. People believe this will happen soon. Yeah you'll be able to earn and buy ships in game but I assure you people with real $$$ will always be able to buy them somehow CIG will never remove that they can't. It's only way they get money. Also seriously no SQ42 no images, no video not even a 1 minute CGI video. Nothing. That's what this event has been nothing. One has to ask, are they even working on it. Be real we have not heard or seen anything about Squadron 42 for years and to be honest ever because what ever we have seen yeas ago will of been scrapped like the PU. We have Not learned anything new other than the FaceRig tech in game if and when that's ever implementeD who knows. I'm sure the special camera will be sold before the ability to use it. This week I saw and learned nothing new nothing good just worries me more The one thing I was happy to see and most excited if I can be was the scroll wheel to walk/run. I liked that. That's it. Oh the Aurora rework looked good but obviously still a complete pain to get in and out of and I'm sure will still clip through the ship trying to get in and out of the ship. I know now no one will read all of this. And I'm sure there is many grammar and spelling mistakes. I'm typing this on my iPhone. So I'm sure. And I don't care. If I didn't do this now at this exact time I would not of done it. I needed to vent. im not a hater this comes from a place of love and worry. And I fear for the future. People believe they are so transparent with us since they'd started showing us the internal build schedule. But that couldn't be further from it. More than ever in the last 12+ months i feel all I've heard is none truths and things they surely knew was not a possibility. And the reason I got so fustraited and needed to vent here. Is when I saw CIG Quietly added a date of October 9th on the schedule for the release of 3.0. They said they were not going to do that. And doing this burndown, and not giving us feels like a way around the heat they where getting to cool it down before Gamescom which isnt to give backers new info and make us happy it's solely there to get new backers and sell ships and packages. Which is fine I understand that. But after all the rubbish and delays before they started to do Burndown. And hours after the sales and the week of gamescom hours after Gameacom finishes they quietly ad the date of October 9th for release for 3.0. Not stated on the page info Only actually on the edge of the image of the schedule. So now the sales and event is done they have gone back to a date. ?? im tired of it. i was going to contine but I'm done. I hope they realise the dream we all had when we first saw or heard of Star Citizen no matter when it was. And I truely hope it's realised but as a backer and a huge fan who follows all channels about SC all the devs watches all live streams and videos on Youtube Twitch and twitter. I hope it goes well. But like I said me my bro told brother and my old man. Just can't do it anymore not going to follow watch anything. And if and when 3.0 comes out it's needs to be a good foundation to the game. If it's a complete mess and a shamble. Then. I don't know. Like I said I know no one will ever read all this I just wanted to vent and save everything I've been feeling for a long time. again this is coming from a family of backers, fans and care. EDIT 28/08/17: I didn't bookmark this because I just wanted to say what I felt and leave it at that. The only reason I came back is because someone PM'd me and said.. "I read the thread and i wanted to tell you: well done. I think that more people should join your thinking. As you said im not a hater, im a backer as well but i think what you did is good." And I appreciate this person who messaged me because honestly I thought all I was going to get was hate, but its been nice to come back and see most people feel the same and has agreed with me or at least if they don't appreciate what I said. So cheers Also my friend messaged me this about FOIP from 2012 :blush: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cde01HNKQVw&feature=youtu.be&t=19