This sums it up I think quite well. Defenders, really, if you try and explain away the mess that's unfolded in the first 24 hrs here you're really only making yourself look bad/worse. This 3.9.1 release has been an absolute disaster as far as releases go. There's certainly been bad ones before, and I've seen them all, but this one is certainly tops. Forums and chat are on fire for a reason here. So, let's hope we get some things fixed here quickly. Yeah for hope! Edit: Speaking of hope, the 23:45pm hotfix has helped. If you can stay in long enough before a 30K then your progress for that session may in fact be saved. Not confirmed yet. Many still can't get in... Oh, and CIG apparently have removed the fleet stuff - or the NPC s can't log in! :slightly_smiling_face: