I'm talking about players killing other players for no reason. Piracy is great, I encourage it, but killing others with no intention of doing anything with their corpse or vessel afterwards is not the intention, right? It's SO common though. Do they think this just just Space Apex or are they maladjusted manchildren who can only find fun if they are ruining it for someone else? Either way, I have followed this game since the beginning and never has random, consequence free murder been intended gameplay, but it has always been there. I don' think CIG appreciates how discouraging it is to live in their universe with this going on. I'll add another thread to the long list of threads going back for years saying the same thing, but it needs saying again and again until it's fixed. CIG, I get what you are going for with the criminality system but it is not robust enough to allow a pvp free for at all times yet. All you need to do is make NPC police chase down and kill murderers in Stanton. Make it like EVE, where you won't last long with a top tier wanted level in UEE space. We have Pyro now, let that take the outlet for wanton pvp. That's it, problem solved. Eve does it this way and it works. Your satellite tracking and relying on player vs player justice just isn't working. It never has and never will. Hours and hours of gameplay down the toilet because some dudebro with aggression misplacement has free reign to be as toxic as they want and call it "part of the game" and "you just don't like pvp". I love PVP if it has a purpose. But SC isn't apex, it is not a deathmatch, it is supposed to feel like a real universe. PVP needs a reason beyond sociopathy. I literally waited beside my soft deathed ship for them to come down and loot it, it was full of valuable cargo and was very salvageable, but they never came. Never had any intention of doing anything but murdering anyone who came by just for their own fun. If people are blowing up ships and they aren't down there scrapping it and collecting its cargo afterwards, that is not tenable for a sustainable community, it needs to be addressed and you need to find ways to stymie it IMMEDIATELY, not let it turn your entire game into a toxic mess for years and years. If I got the whole thing wrong and you do want this game to be what it is now, then let me know so I can uninstall it and never open it again. If not, it needs to be changed right now, for the millionth time, from the millionth person. Edit: All that said, I suppose what I want from CIG right now would be a report on what they want to have done before their next update to criminality and how much of it they've done already, as well as any other things being actively worked on to mitigate undesirable behaviors. Not design talks kind of worked on, devs writing code kind of worked on.