Got my Dual T50s up and running and here are my first impressions of their physical condition. Haven’t had time for play testing yet. Shipping: 12-14 days became 39 days to arrive. I live in the centre of Tokyo where amazon delivers within 2 hours sometimes, so the delays were on their end. 36 days. In fairness I was offered A refund. Packaging: Packaging was good quality and tight. No play or bits and bobs floating around. Base and Gimbal: Bases are solid and very well built. They arrived in pristine condition, not a single scratch or burr... They were lighter than I imagined, due to aluminium construction. The gimbals actions were ok, however the gimbal of the right hand joystick is slightly rougher than the left one. Moreover, there is some sort of very slight discontinuity in the gradient of the cam, perhaps imperfect machining. I asked for them to install the softest springs since I'm not using extensions but alas, they came with standard springs. It took about an hour to replace both gimbals' springs... I wanted to replace the cams, too, but was entirely unable to undo the screws which had been locktited in place so I left them in. Still with the softest springs, responsiveness increased markedly and the slight roughness in the right hand gimbal abated. Internally, the extreme build quality is apparent... VERY nice gimbal construction... These things are 100% metal. No faffing with slathering roughshod balls in dodgy lube (!). The electronics are custom built and firmly mounted with a very tidy little circuit board. Very professional!! Grip: Coming from the Saitek X65F, I was surprised that neither the material of the grips themselves nor the actions of the switches were quite up to the standard of that joystick.... Before you do a double WTSF, SAITEK???!?!?!111 Please read a review of the Saitek X65F... It was an incredible, all metal construction force joystick, superbly over engineered and perhaps the ONLY high quality joystick Saitek ever made. Incredible. Don't get me wrong, the quality is still very high, but just not THAT high. If you come from a metal grip, you won't help but think.... Hmmm... That's very... plasticky. One thing they did very well though is the ergonomics... There are two adjustable hand-rests available and within minutes, I was comfortably reaching even the most remote hat and switch on the grip. Both left and right felt like they were made for my hands. Hats and Switches: This is my biggest gripe. The buttons were fine, but the hats... Oh dear... firstly, while I know that appearance isn’t important (CH look terrible but last years) they just look... cheap. Maybe it’s the grey colour, who knows but again, coming from the gorgeous Saitek X65F, they are a big step down. But importantly, and not just cosmetically, of the six hats (between the two joysticks) three of them had faulty actions. Top centre hat on LH joystick has no left or right feedback and response was intermittent. https://www.dropbox.com/s/bojiw4l4ll...%2049.mov?dl=0 Bottom centre hat on RH joystick had a faulty left action. Need to REALLY press hard to get a response. https://www.dropbox.com/s/yq2zsu1mxu...%2027.mov?dl=0 The bottom centre hat on LH joystick was also very heavy in the LH direct, but not quite as serious as the right. Once I have time to play with them a bit, I'll keep you informed of how things pan out. Have put in a request for replacement parts. Software: There is none. Nada. Although I found reference to some beta software somewhere and also a passage stating that you’ll Fsck things up if you use windows calibration, so I’m leaving them alone for the time being. Other: Also, although someone on this thread said they got a set of dust covers for their trouble, I didn’t. In conclusion. The gimbal is A- grade (knocked off points for very slight oddness in the one cam. The grip Gets s B+. It’s just feels too light (although not flimsy) and is let down badly by substandard switches. Overall, considering the reviews I’ve seen, I’m a touch disappointed but will very gladly change my opinion if their after sales service lives up to its reputation.