Logitech G Extreme 3D Pro Joystick are 50% off ($19.95) on Amazon today. That is cheaper than you can get used ones on eBay. As far as I'm concerned these are best cheap option to go dual stick. Especially once I figured out how to use the throttle on it properly. The default that the game sets is ridiculous! I have a Saitek x-56 on my main gaming rig, but I have 3 accounts and 4 kids to handle. So I just ordered two more so that I can have dual stick on two gaming laptops. I am still waiting on a used one I ordered on eBay about three weeks ago. I have a nice chair in my bedroom that has wide flat wooden arms and I velcro the sticks to them. It is almost a perfect cockpit. I just need a better table to put my Legion 5 Pro on now. But the TV tray I have works OKish. Anyone else using the Logitechs for dual stick? Once I get things setup I will share my single and dual configs.