Well, regardless of what they are like I would still welcome input on the contenders for a brand new setup. I don't have room for a sim-pit and as amazing and appealing as that is, I'm limited to an old standard L-shaped work desk that holds all my stuff. The only real accessory I have that I plan on integrating into the mix somewhere is a Streamdeck XL. I'm considering the Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog vs T16000M FCS Flight Pack (Stick/Throttle/Pedals) or possibly the Logitech X52 set. Not sure what VIRPIL is all about yet. I've also owned and loved CH flightsticks before, but that was for-ev-er ago... I would also like some type of non-permanent mount for whatever system chosen that can attach to the desk. I suspect that walks the line towards custom or sim-pit (lol). Feel free to throw out any buyer beware/concerns as well as praise for what has been an awesome experience. Suffice to say, I'm posting this as I begin my search so I'm sure I'll come across all sorts of things along the way and will, of course, come to my own conclusions. However, I am always eager to learn what has and has not worked for others. Thanks for making it through my rambling post... Disclaimer: I am not a pilot but I play one in SC... Shoutout: Those of you with the incredible Streamdeck, custom devices, and sim-pit setups. Inspiration into addiction... Thank in advance! -mithrix