Note these are at the pricier end of the spectrum (there is a whole level after this) A few new things are coming out this month, TM is finally releasing the F18 grip for Warthog, Cougar, or any other bases that expect the Warthog or Cougar (Virpil, Real Simulator, etc) http://www.thrustmaster.com/en_US/products/fa-18c-hornet-hotas-add-grip Real Simulator F16SGRH Grip http://realsimulator.com/html/f16sgrh.html A little more info on the F16SGRH, the grip can be used as a complete joystick without external gimbals (with 3 axes), it's most likely using accelerators for this, for highest fidelity (accuracy) you'd want to mount it to a base. This is a pretty cool idea as you can use in a free form environment (VR), so you could use it your highend simpit with a base, unscrew it and use it in a VR game with a cable or connected to the bottom, etc. Pretty innovative IMO.