VKB to the rescue once again, with their new Gladiator-K No having to buy the Gladiator Mk II and the upgrade kit and the grip separately and pay the premium to do so. The most expensive option is $179 with the premium Kosmosima grip and frankly, the $149 option with the standard Kosmosima grip is pretty damn usable. https://www.reddit.com/r/hotas/comments/gue0ad/gladiator_k_is_fact_of_life_now/ I'm so happy about this because it makes my life easier when giving recommendations. That mid-level gap has been filled. Nobody who doesn't need an A10/F16 near replica grip need ever to consider buying a Warthog again! :smile: