Space X was founded Mars 14 2002. CIG was founded April 2012 Spacex launced a real life rocket to orbit September 28 2008 (6,5 years after it was founded). Space X landed the first stage sucessfully (real life jesus tech) December 21 2015 (13+ years after it was founded) CIG just got persistence after 10 years SQ42 is expected in 2 years but they are always late so if we are lucky we get it after 13 years.. the same time that SpaceX built a real life rocket and landed it.. It will be very exciting to see if SpaceX will create a permanent base on Mars before PU is released. Any bets? Thumbs up = SpaceX will colonize Mars before PU launch Thumb down = PU will launch first (measured in years after the company was founded). Only question I have is why SpaceX rockets do not have any guns or turrets? They should have atleast 2 Size 2 turrets imho.. And the Dragon capsule a S3 gunmount.. :smile: