Hello lads and gents, I have bought black desert after they released it in eu 5 years ago. I never had time for it but now I played it for 4 month. I really loved the beginning and I still love the combat system simply because it is really fast paced and not so boring like other mmos (wow, ff). However the loot and gear system is total crap and there is basically no team/party oriented pve content. Also the ingame realmoney shop is cancer. I find it hilarious that when you join up fight against field or worldbosses you only have a decent change if you are under the top damage dealer to get the boss gear. So people who actually have boss gear equipped have a higher change of getting boss gear?! WTF And the pvp is just idiotic since you will nearly allways deal more damage than you can tank. PVP looks like => Who hits first will win. Very shallow and boring My question: Does anyone now a mmo with: - Similar graphic like black desert - Similar fighting system like black desert - Rewarding grinder (like diablo, division etc.) - More complex pve group content (like raids from destiny) - More complex pvp (not allways one shot fights) Its so sad because I really love black desert in many ways but it has way too many flaws and the grind is just mind numbing and the shitty rng upgrading system is dopey.