... then you've never heard of Live for Speed. :smile: The game has been in Alpha for over 24 years, and a major feature—new tire physics—was promised for 2009 but still hasn't been released. Nevertheless, the game isn't dead, and the biggest patch in many years is about to be released. Many race sim enthusiasts say it still drives better than any other game. Check this out: https://youtu.be/Za2ME6ZvPR0?si=luTLHcy6RkxC9C7X To be fair, it must be said that only two people are actively working on it ^^