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February 24th 2021 at 7:09 pm
Ship Naming Incoming
February 24th 2021 at 7:09 pm
Hello everyone,
As announced in our recent Roadmap update, we’re introducing ship naming and serial numbers in the upcoming Alpha 3.13 patch. With this feature, select ships can display a player-assigned name and the unique serial number they were assigned at purchase on their hulls.
This is the first iteration of the feature and starts with the following ships:
As announced in our recent Roadmap update, we’re introducing ship naming and serial numbers in the upcoming Alpha 3.13 patch. With this feature, select ships can display a player-assigned name and the unique serial number they were assigned at purchase on their hulls.
This is the first iteration of the feature and starts with the following ships:
- Aegis Hammerhead
- Aegis Reclaimer
- Anvil Carrack
- Crusader Industries Mercury Star Runner
- Origin 600i
- Origin 890 Jump
The names will be unique per hull. For example, there can be several ships named “Shooting Star” but only one 600i, Reclaimer, or 890 Jump with the name.
We have filters in place to catch inappropriate names and reserve the right to rename a ship should someone circumvent our filters or use a name we consider inappropriate that's not automatically flagged.
The feature implementation for the above ships will start based on the date the pledge was acquired. On March 1 at 10 am PST/ 6pm UTC, we’ll open up naming for concept pledges and golden ticket holders before inviting the next waves the following Mondays (March 8, March 15, March 22). These seven-day cycles honor early backers and give the new naming system a chance to cool down between waves. If you're a proud pilot of one of these models, have a look at the wave overviews below to find out when you can name your ship. For ships that have been melted and reclaimed, the buyback date is used to determine wave access.
The naming itself is done via the Hangar on the website. Names can be changed at any time, but your ship can only hold one name at a time.
This is the first iteration of ship naming, and while you can change the name as often as you like for now, it's important to note that this is only temporary. Also, keep in mind that once you change the name, the old name is released and available for others! We are currently reviewing various options to limit the ability to change ship names infinitely, such as a cooldown and/or a small fee (similar to how handle changes work currently), as naming your ship is intended to be a meaningful and lasting decision.
Origin 600i Waves
1st Wave - March 1: Concept Pledges and Golden Ticket Holders
2nd Wave - March 8: Concierge and 2018 Pledges
3rd Wave - March 15: 2019 Pledges
4th Wave - March 22: 2020 Pledges
* In 2017, when we offered the Origin 600i as a concept pledge, Warbond pledges were given the ability to reserve a name for their ship, so we already have a database with reserved names for this one.
Origin 890 Jump Waves
1st Wave - March 1: Concept Pledges and Golden Ticket Holders
2nd Wave - March 8: Concierge, 2015, and 2016 Pledges
3rd Wave - March 15: 2017 and 2018 Pledges
4th Wave - March 22: 2019 and 2020 Pledges
Aegis Hammerhead Waves
1st Wave - March 1: Concept Pledges and Golden Ticket Holders
2nd Wave - March 8: Concierge and 2018 Pledges
3rd Wave - March 15: 2019 Pledges
4th Wave - March 22: 2020 Pledges
Aegis Reclaimer Waves
1st Wave - March 1: Concept Pledges and Golden Ticket Holders
2nd Wave - March 8: Concierge, 2014 Post-Concept Pledges, 2015 Pledges, and 2016 Pledges
3rd Wave - March 15: 2017 and 2018 Pledges
4th Wave - March 22: 2019 and 2020 Pledges
Crusader Industries Mercury Star Runner Waves
1st Wave - March 1: Concept Pledges and Golden Ticket Holders
2nd Wave - March 8: Concierge & 2018 Post-Concept Pledges
3rd Wave - March 15: 2019 Pledges
4th Wave - March 22: 2020 Pledges
Anvil Carrack Waves
1st Wave - March 1: 2014 Pledges and Golden Ticket Holders
2nd Wave - March 8: 2015 and 2016 Pledges, and Concierge
3rd Wave - March 15: 2017 and 2018 Pledges
4th Wave - March 22: 2019 and 2020 Pledges
*Any pledges for the above-mentioned ships acquired in 2021 will be included in Wave 4.
Want to know how to name your ship? Our Ship Naming FAQ has all the info you need.
Let us know in the comments below if you have any questions and we will do our best to answer them!
We have filters in place to catch inappropriate names and reserve the right to rename a ship should someone circumvent our filters or use a name we consider inappropriate that's not automatically flagged.
The feature implementation for the above ships will start based on the date the pledge was acquired. On March 1 at 10 am PST/ 6pm UTC, we’ll open up naming for concept pledges and golden ticket holders before inviting the next waves the following Mondays (March 8, March 15, March 22). These seven-day cycles honor early backers and give the new naming system a chance to cool down between waves. If you're a proud pilot of one of these models, have a look at the wave overviews below to find out when you can name your ship. For ships that have been melted and reclaimed, the buyback date is used to determine wave access.
The naming itself is done via the Hangar on the website. Names can be changed at any time, but your ship can only hold one name at a time.
This is the first iteration of ship naming, and while you can change the name as often as you like for now, it's important to note that this is only temporary. Also, keep in mind that once you change the name, the old name is released and available for others! We are currently reviewing various options to limit the ability to change ship names infinitely, such as a cooldown and/or a small fee (similar to how handle changes work currently), as naming your ship is intended to be a meaningful and lasting decision.
Origin 600i Waves
1st Wave - March 1: Concept Pledges and Golden Ticket Holders
2nd Wave - March 8: Concierge and 2018 Pledges
3rd Wave - March 15: 2019 Pledges
4th Wave - March 22: 2020 Pledges
* In 2017, when we offered the Origin 600i as a concept pledge, Warbond pledges were given the ability to reserve a name for their ship, so we already have a database with reserved names for this one.
Origin 890 Jump Waves
1st Wave - March 1: Concept Pledges and Golden Ticket Holders
2nd Wave - March 8: Concierge, 2015, and 2016 Pledges
3rd Wave - March 15: 2017 and 2018 Pledges
4th Wave - March 22: 2019 and 2020 Pledges
Aegis Hammerhead Waves
1st Wave - March 1: Concept Pledges and Golden Ticket Holders
2nd Wave - March 8: Concierge and 2018 Pledges
3rd Wave - March 15: 2019 Pledges
4th Wave - March 22: 2020 Pledges
Aegis Reclaimer Waves
1st Wave - March 1: Concept Pledges and Golden Ticket Holders
2nd Wave - March 8: Concierge, 2014 Post-Concept Pledges, 2015 Pledges, and 2016 Pledges
3rd Wave - March 15: 2017 and 2018 Pledges
4th Wave - March 22: 2019 and 2020 Pledges
Crusader Industries Mercury Star Runner Waves
1st Wave - March 1: Concept Pledges and Golden Ticket Holders
2nd Wave - March 8: Concierge & 2018 Post-Concept Pledges
3rd Wave - March 15: 2019 Pledges
4th Wave - March 22: 2020 Pledges
Anvil Carrack Waves
1st Wave - March 1: 2014 Pledges and Golden Ticket Holders
2nd Wave - March 8: 2015 and 2016 Pledges, and Concierge
3rd Wave - March 15: 2017 and 2018 Pledges
4th Wave - March 22: 2019 and 2020 Pledges
*Any pledges for the above-mentioned ships acquired in 2021 will be included in Wave 4.
Want to know how to name your ship? Our Ship Naming FAQ has all the info you need.
Let us know in the comments below if you have any questions and we will do our best to answer them!
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February 24th 2021 at 7:51 pm
I hope this Unique name thing doesn't extend beyond the ships sold with the naming reservation. You can differentiate ships by serial number without restricting people on how they want to name things. I hope this decision is reversed.
Edit: Not to mention the ridiculous looking names it's going to cause, noone wants to see "m1ll3nium fa1c0n69".
Edit: Not to mention the ridiculous looking names it's going to cause, noone wants to see "m1ll3nium fa1c0n69".
February 24th 2021 at 8:04 pm
I agree the ships have serial numbers its a dumb decision to limit it to one name per hull. Millions of players and you really think people will come up with a couple million unique names? Come on CIG...
Edit: Most people don't want to see stupid names on the sides of ships like 3NT3RPRlS3 because they couldn't just have ENTERPRISE. I would love to be a fly on the wall when these development meetings happen just to listen to how this was justified in the decision process.
Edit: Most people don't want to see stupid names on the sides of ships like 3NT3RPRlS3 because they couldn't just have ENTERPRISE. I would love to be a fly on the wall when these development meetings happen just to listen to how this was justified in the decision process.
February 25th 2021 at 1:53 pm
Will npc ships be named?
If yes, will these millions of npc ships also be unique?
If yes, will these unique names be unavailable to players?
If yes, who will name these npc ships? 1 $ / day workers from India?
If yes, have fun to find valide names for the players.
If yes, will these millions of npc ships also be unique?
If yes, will these unique names be unavailable to players?
If yes, who will name these npc ships? 1 $ / day workers from India?
If yes, have fun to find valide names for the players.
March 1st 2021 at 8:01 pm
- It's unique per hull, you're not competing against millions for a 600i you're competing with the few tens of thousands of owners.
- 3 million is total USERS not total backers. Notice you registered for the site before you could buy a package? Not everyone bought a package. I don't know what the proportion of Civilians to Citizens is but it's not 100% backer I can tell you that. For example there's the people who register to play for the length of a single free-fly and don't come back for years.
- I've already done a whole thread on the number of possibilities merely within the scope of ASCII and 3-words-or-less names. If we're talking simple possibilities for names, there are plenty even if we divide the figure by 10 or 100 to account for "gibberish" names.
- As per another reply in another thread, if I want to name my (hypothetical) son "Jeremiah" in honour of my good friend Jeremiah Gottwald, and he tells me that he is absolutely against a direct copy of his first name, I will then call my son Jeremiah II or Jeremiah Jr. or, if I wanted my son to suffer, I'd call him Orange. They're all a reference to the exact same person. I firmly believe the majority of people are capable of finding a twist that retains the spirit of the original and can invoke the same meaning, without necessarily even removing or altering the original term.
- 3 million is total USERS not total backers. Notice you registered for the site before you could buy a package? Not everyone bought a package. I don't know what the proportion of Civilians to Citizens is but it's not 100% backer I can tell you that. For example there's the people who register to play for the length of a single free-fly and don't come back for years.
- I've already done a whole thread on the number of possibilities merely within the scope of ASCII and 3-words-or-less names. If we're talking simple possibilities for names, there are plenty even if we divide the figure by 10 or 100 to account for "gibberish" names.
- As per another reply in another thread, if I want to name my (hypothetical) son "Jeremiah" in honour of my good friend Jeremiah Gottwald, and he tells me that he is absolutely against a direct copy of his first name, I will then call my son Jeremiah II or Jeremiah Jr. or, if I wanted my son to suffer, I'd call him Orange. They're all a reference to the exact same person. I firmly believe the majority of people are capable of finding a twist that retains the spirit of the original and can invoke the same meaning, without necessarily even removing or altering the original term.
March 3rd 2021 at 10:28 pm
You're competing with anyone who buys a ship in-game as well. You think 5 years from now there will only be a few tens of thousands of owners for ANY ship hull, when there are millions of players and all of them can buy as many ships as they want in-game? The new player experience for ship naming is going to be terrible in a few years. And heaven help you if you want to give your Aurora/Mustang a clever name.
March 9th 2021 at 2:42 am
My worst fear with MMOs: that we have to give a name to a character and that the name has to be unique.
The message "This name is already in use" displayed on a loop makes me want to kill those who thought it would be super immersive.
You imagine if the countries did the same: no this first name is already taken, this first name is already taken, this first name has already been taken ... Half of the children would have finished their studies before the parents had found a free one.
PS: I thought to name my whole fleet according to a theme (without having chosen it so far). It will not be easy to find a theme with names, not yet taken by other players, that have meaning for my ships.
The message "This name is already in use" displayed on a loop makes me want to kill those who thought it would be super immersive.
You imagine if the countries did the same: no this first name is already taken, this first name is already taken, this first name has already been taken ... Half of the children would have finished their studies before the parents had found a free one.
PS: I thought to name my whole fleet according to a theme (without having chosen it so far). It will not be easy to find a theme with names, not yet taken by other players, that have meaning for my ships.
March 4th 2021 at 10:35 am
The same person who names most of the NPCs.
To wit, it'll be procedurally generated and if you include organisation tags belonging to organisations no player can join, then it's really very easy to set up trillions of unique ship names - especially considering that most will be drawn from Star Citizen lore, not popular culture.
To wit, it'll be procedurally generated and if you include organisation tags belonging to organisations no player can join, then it's really very easy to set up trillions of unique ship names - especially considering that most will be drawn from Star Citizen lore, not popular culture.
March 2nd 2021 at 6:00 pm
name system and oready blow it up name shud go to all ships one name per game not per one ship liek bunney ruenr recliemr and name same 600i and if som loke for bunty this dude you cud get shout tell you got hsi ship he soo wrong!
February 27th 2021 at 1:40 am
Irl seagoing ships have both names, and an international identification number, called an IMO number, for example, the tugboat I’m currently working on is called the Juno, but if you search Juno in a ship tracking app, you’ll get hundreds of results from boats and ships of all classes. But every ship has its own number, if you search the number 7502368 in that same app, you’d only get one result, the Juno that I am currently working on. The ship can even undergo name changes, but the number stays the same for the life of the ship. I say let us name our ship how we want, and use the unique number to identify them if necessary
February 27th 2021 at 5:56 pm
SnakeMichaelsaid
Irl seagoing ships have both names, and an international identification number, called an IMO number, for example, the tugboat I’m currently working on is called the Juno, but if you search Juno in a ship tracking app, you’ll get hundreds of results from boats and ships of all classes. But every ship has its own number, if you search the number 7502368 in that same app, you’d only get one result, the Juno that I am currently working on. The ship can even undergo name changes, but the number stays the same for the life of the ship. I say let us name our ship how we want, and use the unique number to identify them if necessary
so if there is 5000 Black Pearls - Do you shoot at everyone you see? or wait for them to shoot at you first?
March 7th 2021 at 6:04 pm
Prometheusssaid
so if there is 5000 Black Pearls - Do you shoot at everyone you see? or wait for them to shoot at you first?
This is a game. Not a real world system that you can look up ship captains in. Your premise is lost on the fact that nobody is ever going to memorize a serial number! If ENTIRE countries can manage Custom License Plates to ONE per Vehicle then I am sure we can manage the same here. The Lore of Star Citizen will continue to be written and in it the NAMES of the Ships and Captains and Crew who were captured in its pages and I refuse to let that go because someone is too damn lazy to think up an original unique name for their own ships!
February 27th 2021 at 6:09 pm
SnakeMichaelsaid
Irl seagoing ships have both names, and an international identification number, called an IMO number, for example, the tugboat I’m currently working on is called the Juno, but if you search Juno in a ship tracking app, you’ll get hundreds of results from boats and ships of all classes. But every ship has its own number, if you search the number 7502368 in that same app, you’d only get one result, the Juno that I am currently working on. The ship can even undergo name changes, but the number stays the same for the life of the ship. I say let us name our ship how we want, and use the unique number to identify them if necessary
If you name your ship the "Black Pearl" and get ganked every 10 mins - are you going to complain then too? " But they didn't check my serial" Reeee
March 2nd 2021 at 4:03 am
This isn't Real Life, its a HUGE MMO and in MMO's players actually WANT their Fame or Infamy captured in the annals of the games Lore! People seriously need to learn what an MMO actually is and go with it. They wouldn't have put in descriptors for orgs like Hardcore or Role Play if it wasn't going to be exactly that!
February 25th 2021 at 7:30 am
What would you rather have - tons of uncreative knee jerk names like Enterprise, along with stupid names like xXx_MegaExterminator666_xXx, - or less uncreative knee jerk names, but slightly more stupid names?
Limitations force creativity and stupid names will happen anyway
Limitations force creativity and stupid names will happen anyway
February 26th 2021 at 1:00 am
bro it's ship names... if a bunch of people want to have an enterprise... who cares???
February 26th 2021 at 6:27 pm
I want my ship to have a unique name that lives in fame, or infamy... like people see my badge or uniform and say "Holy crap, you're from the Centennial Peregrine!?!?" and not have to have a conversation around, "is that the ship 37F4593201, or the 35G769202?"
February 26th 2021 at 3:37 pm
Perhaps one solution is to use Roman numerals.
Example:
Enterprise - I
Enterprise - II
Enterprise - IV
Enterprise - X
Enterprise - MCV
Example:
Enterprise - I
Enterprise - II
Enterprise - IV
Enterprise - X
Enterprise - MCV
March 22nd 2021 at 2:16 am
Another Idea
The Ship Code - Ship Name - Last 5 of the serial number "MSR - Raven - 30117" would be the official designation, for in game ATC and and LE and other registrations, as well as any ship logs and records. But we will call or ships by the name given (or nicknames sometimes).
This way we can allow the legacy we gain thru our adventure, kinda push the cream of lore to the top. So when someone starts a story about that crazy The Raven, that crazy Star Runner, everyone will know "it must be that ^%$(*& - 30117 again" and we can regale about how the "Hummingbird, you know that - MMXXXVIII finally took him out"
This will solve the unique naming issue for the game's sake. But will give us gamers to freedom to name our ships as we please.
NOTE - If we did not have names, the proper id tags would most likely be ship code and "tail number" which is an abbreviated registration serial number, like "MSR-30117". So we are simply adding our name to an already uniquely ID tag/registered ship.
It's just a thought- [salute] - Rave
The Ship Code - Ship Name - Last 5 of the serial number "MSR - Raven - 30117" would be the official designation, for in game ATC and and LE and other registrations, as well as any ship logs and records. But we will call or ships by the name given (or nicknames sometimes).
This way we can allow the legacy we gain thru our adventure, kinda push the cream of lore to the top. So when someone starts a story about that crazy The Raven, that crazy Star Runner, everyone will know "it must be that ^%$(*& - 30117 again" and we can regale about how the "Hummingbird, you know that - MMXXXVIII finally took him out"
This will solve the unique naming issue for the game's sake. But will give us gamers to freedom to name our ships as we please.
NOTE - If we did not have names, the proper id tags would most likely be ship code and "tail number" which is an abbreviated registration serial number, like "MSR-30117". So we are simply adding our name to an already uniquely ID tag/registered ship.
It's just a thought- [salute] - Rave
March 6th 2021 at 7:37 pm
I'd rather see a bunch of ships with uncreative names like Enterprise rather than a bunch of ships with the same uncreative name w/ random characters appended like Enterprise_____ and Enterprise589375 because the original isn't available.
February 25th 2021 at 10:29 am
Neither u can handel it like in zhe real world witch serial numbers
February 26th 2021 at 7:26 am
[ISTD] Lewis Conoradosaid
I agree the ships have serial numbers its a dumb decision to limit it to one name per hull. Millions of players and you really think people will come up with a couple million unique names? Come on CIG...
Edit: Most people don't want to see stupid names on the sides of ships like 3NT3RPRlS3 because they couldn't just have ENTERPRISE. I would love to be a fly on the wall when these development meetings happen just to listen to how this was justified in the decision process.
Edit: Most people don't want to see stupid names on the sides of ships like 3NT3RPRlS3 because they couldn't just have ENTERPRISE. I would love to be a fly on the wall when these development meetings happen just to listen to how this was justified in the decision process.
You want to know how this was justified? The answer is money.
February 28th 2021 at 11:21 pm
Sad, but most likely true. Many players might be willing to spend real money to have their ship named with a name they really want - instead of having to live with the leftovers.
Follows the line of selling colors for real money. I understand that development requires money but this smellls like the pay-to-win. And most of all - it ruins the immersion for most other players.
Follows the line of selling colors for real money. I understand that development requires money but this smellls like the pay-to-win. And most of all - it ruins the immersion for most other players.
March 2nd 2021 at 4:05 am
Speak for yourself! Perhaps you personally do not want your Fame or Infamy cited in the annals of the games lore but those of us who do and play the game in a serious Hardcore Role Playing manner actually want exactly that! If your ship names mean so little to you then go ahead and give them benign numbers and move along! However, those who do want the hardcore role play are going to want their own unique name for their ship singularly used by them alone.
March 2nd 2021 at 3:14 pm
Why would anyone remember a ship? The player, YES!
IF I want to be remembered I want the other player to remember ME! Next encounter might be in a different ship (with a different name).
I couldn't care less about the deck under your feet if you piss me off! I'm going to hunt YOU down - not, your ship.
If you want to be remembered through fame or infamy... What does your ship name matter? Your ship isn't you! You might become a better pilot and change your ship because of your better skill set!
IF I want to be remembered I want the other player to remember ME! Next encounter might be in a different ship (with a different name).
I couldn't care less about the deck under your feet if you piss me off! I'm going to hunt YOU down - not, your ship.
If you want to be remembered through fame or infamy... What does your ship name matter? Your ship isn't you! You might become a better pilot and change your ship because of your better skill set!
March 8th 2021 at 2:59 pm
I found a neat starship name generator that should help with folks that just can't think of a unique name. I have no affiliation whatsoever with the site, just found it looking for a name generator... Love google. Spaceship names (Spaceship names (fantasynamegenerators.com) You can keep clicking "Get Spaceship Names" until you see one you like.
February 24th 2021 at 8:08 pm
I never login to Spectrum, but I dusted off my credentials this time just to agree with you. This is complete BS. What happens if someone claims an awesome name and never logs in again? Is it forever unavailable? The serial numbers should be unique, NOT the names. Bad play, CIG.
EDIT: I see they addressed the name changing so I removed that comment. Still infuriating. One of the absolute worst parts of multiplayer gaming is rushing to claim a name.
EDIT: I see they addressed the name changing so I removed that comment. Still infuriating. One of the absolute worst parts of multiplayer gaming is rushing to claim a name.
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February 25th 2021 at 12:16 am
February 25th 2021 at 12:16 am
February 25th 2021 at 12:58 am
It is better to see thousands of ships called Enterprise than to see thousands of ships called EnterP1se, EenterPrise or XxEnter-Prise.
February 25th 2021 at 1:36 am
What does having hundreds of other Enterprises matter to you? Does it completely ruin your gameplay if you were to come across another?
February 25th 2021 at 12:19 pm
It's gonna happen anyways. As one who has played in STO, yeah I got sick and tired of seeing 100 billion "Serenity" names but, the alternative is what I saw in WoW and other titles with unique names that ruined the enjoyment and immersion. You run around seeing constant XXXxXXXxxXXX names. Creativity can only go so far. Most sci fi gamers are the least creative as well.
February 25th 2021 at 12:29 am
I wonder how many variations of "Enterprise" there will be.
February 25th 2021 at 4:31 pm
the real question is who gets more ships name Enterprise the carrack or the Kraken? Since the name always goes to a carrier in the real world! How many ships do we get that named Gib or Big Benny's I'm fine with this easy way to find out what someone into or maybe they went with a theme for their fleet
February 24th 2021 at 11:54 pm
Think of another name then. Use those creative juices. There's more than one sci-fi franchise to call upon, and one can always go derivative if you REALLY want to wear your references on your sleeve.
I recommend using Petey style naming convention. If we use P and J as your starter letters a combat ship could be the Punishing Jaunt, a hauler could be the Profitable Journey, to think of a few.
If you are particularly bothered because it will result in others not exercising their creativity and creating weird ship names, I suggest live and let live and simply ignoring them.
And look on the bright side: ASCII only means no emojis.
I recommend using Petey style naming convention. If we use P and J as your starter letters a combat ship could be the Punishing Jaunt, a hauler could be the Profitable Journey, to think of a few.
If you are particularly bothered because it will result in others not exercising their creativity and creating weird ship names, I suggest live and let live and simply ignoring them.
And look on the bright side: ASCII only means no emojis.
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February 25th 2021 at 3:42 am
February 25th 2021 at 3:42 am
March 8th 2021 at 8:29 pm
Jazzsaid
No, I don't want to name my ship the Enterprise, but I do want to name my ship whatever I want without the anxiety of coming up with the perfect name only for it to be taken. Add to that the fact that some will name their ships and they'll never leave the hanger.
Says a guy with the handle "Punzerjazz"
February 25th 2021 at 12:54 am
For real. This is the dumbest thing I have seen this community get so freaking pissed about. Good luck ever making your ship famous/notorious when there are 400 of them with the same exact name.
February 25th 2021 at 2:57 am
i mean.... isn't there going to be 100+ anyway? you will never be known as your ship name just the ship... Also when someone uses leet text for the same name how does that make any difference Did you see "Starlord? or was it Star1ord?, $tarlord?, or St4rlord?
March 2nd 2021 at 4:11 am
It is more than just a name! It is an additional field of data that describes an Inventory Item in an Inventory System which at present is broken and they are trying to fix! So doing this now rather than later is a requirement. Other than that people play these huge MMO's for the chance to make it into the games lore. Show off their Fame or Infamy so the whole bloody world knows about what they did. If you think so little of your ship name then pick a number and move on. I doubt you will play the game any more seriously than you plan on participating in it.
February 24th 2021 at 8:13 pm
I agree. It also makes no sense because people can come up with thousands of unique naming variations on the exact same name.
Mr. Fluff n' Stuff
Mr Fluff n' Stuff
Mr Fluf n' Stuff
Mr. Fluf Fin Stuff
Mr. Fluf fn Stuff
I could literally go on for thousands of name variations.
Just do what discord does and let people name their ships whatever they want and then add a # on the end that is a unique hull number.
Stuff like this always has me shaking my head.... why are they always overcomplicating things like this. Its so frustrating.
Mr. Fluff n' Stuff
Mr Fluff n' Stuff
Mr Fluf n' Stuff
Mr. Fluf Fin Stuff
Mr. Fluf fn Stuff
I could literally go on for thousands of name variations.
Just do what discord does and let people name their ships whatever they want and then add a # on the end that is a unique hull number.
Stuff like this always has me shaking my head.... why are they always overcomplicating things like this. Its so frustrating.
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February 25th 2021 at 12:21 am
February 25th 2021 at 12:21 am
February 24th 2021 at 8:41 pm
People buy vanity in games all the time. This definitely helped them with pledges at one point. But your idea with respect to discord is already part of ship names for everyone else.
All ships will have a serial number, beyond that you can name your ship however you please once it is in fact available for everything. *edit Everyone.
All ships will have a serial number, beyond that you can name your ship however you please once it is in fact available for everything. *edit Everyone.
March 2nd 2021 at 4:15 am
Wrong! One ship Model/One ship name. That is it, that is all. Perhaps you don't care about the game lore or the possibility of having your Fame or Infamy cited in the annals of its lore but there are hundreds of thousands of us who want exactly that. So if your ships name means so little, pick a number or some other completely irrelevant sticker and move along! I doubt your game play will be anymore thrilling than that.
February 25th 2021 at 10:40 am
As far as why, I'm guessing they had some kind of problem with the database in implementing what they had previously said about the ships with name reservations as a pledge feature being the only ships with unique names per hull.
February 24th 2021 at 8:02 pm
If i understand the text correctly all 5 ships will have hull unique ship names... which is the stupidest thing cig did come up in a long time...
February 24th 2021 at 9:26 pm
If people want to name their ship Enterpr1se6543 that's on them for being uncreative. At least it'll be the only Enterpr1se6543.
February 25th 2021 at 7:22 am
If I want to name my ship Enterprise, I want Enterprise, not 3nt3rprIs3
February 25th 2021 at 9:07 am
Or you could you know go Voyager.... Intrepid... Defiant... Emden (that's an actual Starfleet ship name). Or you could just add a dash and a letter after the name, like you know Enterprise-A, Enterprise-D, Enterprise-E. I mean people only ever informally called them the Enterprise-XYZ (since the A-E are in the NCC-1701 serial), but it would fit the history. Although you may have to go a fair ways down the alphabet to get a letter someone hasn't already jumped on.
But no it HAS to be THAT specific name and the only options when it is unavailable are silly letter/number substitutions.
Endeavour might be a bit confusing since there's already a ship line by that name, although I suppose one could name an Endeavour "Constitution" just to screw with Trekkie heads
But no it HAS to be THAT specific name and the only options when it is unavailable are silly letter/number substitutions.
Endeavour might be a bit confusing since there's already a ship line by that name, although I suppose one could name an Endeavour "Constitution" just to screw with Trekkie heads
March 2nd 2021 at 4:18 am
Many of us are here for the ENTIRE game! Not just the one little piece of it that stokes your personal ego. MMO's like this are never just about the game but also about its lore where your Fame or Infamy is captured in its pages. So if your ship's name means so little to you, pick some obscure number or other irrelevant blurb and move along. I doubt your game play will match the level of those who are here for Hard Core Role Playing which requires unique ship names.
February 24th 2021 at 8:00 pm
Gotta appreciate the irony of a game directed by a guy named 'Chris' is forcing unique names in such a contrived way. Cant wait to gaze upon 900 variations of XX M1LL3N1UM F4LC0N XXs, instead of just letting people live out the harmless fantasy of sharing a ship name.
I truly believe this harms the fantasy aspect of this game.
EDIT: Imagine paying over 600 US dollars for a ship just to have someone tell you what you can and cannot call it. What a joke.
I truly believe this harms the fantasy aspect of this game.
EDIT: Imagine paying over 600 US dollars for a ship just to have someone tell you what you can and cannot call it. What a joke.
February 24th 2021 at 10:38 pm
or you could find a better name
February 26th 2021 at 8:17 am
Rhys Ratossisaid
or you could find a better name
Have you ever played a popular MMO or service that used a unique naming system? After a few years, every single possible coherent name will be taken. Hell by WoW's Cataclysm expansion nearly every possible name the game's own random name generator could spit out was already in use. And WoW had the advantage of using made up fantasy names like "Thorokk" "Saveniar" . People aren't going to eventually end up using random numbers and weird spellings because they're unimaginative, they're going to use them because after forty minutes straight of punching in immersive ship names they gave up finding a proper name that wasn't already in use.
February 27th 2021 at 9:59 pm
Seriously?
There are roughly 1 million English words. There are probably hundreds of thousands of proper names as well... human names, animal names, region, city, etc. The CIG naming scheme allows for spaces, which means existing words and names can be either combined or chained together to form something unique.
Even if you limited yourself to the words in the dictionary, you would have over a trillion possible combinations. Add in proper names, and you get roughly 2^17. Add in words from other languages, made-up words, names from fiction, pop culture references, etc., and the total combinations may as well be infinity, especially because we can go up to 32 characters.
With all due respect, if you can't imagine a way to come up with a unique name, it's on you.
There are roughly 1 million English words. There are probably hundreds of thousands of proper names as well... human names, animal names, region, city, etc. The CIG naming scheme allows for spaces, which means existing words and names can be either combined or chained together to form something unique.
Even if you limited yourself to the words in the dictionary, you would have over a trillion possible combinations. Add in proper names, and you get roughly 2^17. Add in words from other languages, made-up words, names from fiction, pop culture references, etc., and the total combinations may as well be infinity, especially because we can go up to 32 characters.
With all due respect, if you can't imagine a way to come up with a unique name, it's on you.
February 26th 2021 at 8:59 am
Sure, starfighter. All of those things you said-- or, you could find a better name. It doesn't matter what system CIG is using, the onus is still on people if they want to be as imaginative as Disney after a writer strike. Call me if they impose a limitation of 8 characters for names or something equally ridiculous but I couldn't possibly care less that Hon Nolo #55,521 isn't going to be able to call their MSR some variant of "number bird" because they're all taken.
March 4th 2021 at 11:01 am
I'm not so sure about that. It's actually been decades and there are still plenty of names available for top level .net, .org and .com domains. It's just a matter of doing some research before doing a namesearch (because many "namesearches" are scams which reserve any name you search for then try to sell it to you for thousands of dollars).
Tomasius, for example, was available up to a few years back when I picked up the .org and the .space domains. And it is a name that is significant to me given the Latin influences in the stage of life that precipitated my devotion to doubt as the compass by which useful facts are discovered. So, I didn't have to give up relevance to get originality even after so many people had chosen their domain names and so many more automated domain squatters had moved in on internet "real estate". At the end of the day, people who obsess over just one option leave A LOT; in fact a HELL OF A LOT of untouched virgin territory for anyone willing to put only slightly more into a name than plagiarising someone-else.
It's the same deal, here, I reckon only it'll be more like namespaces in 1998 until the day the Star Citizen player count hits eight figures.
Non-RPG'rs forget that the name has to be about your character or your character's ship, not George Lucas or Gene Roddenberry. So it has to be drawn from the language and culture that would be prominent in your character's backstory while reflecting the circumstances surrounding your character's acquisition of the ship. That takes a little research but it's really quite a rewarding aspect of RPGs ... especially in the long term.
Tomasius, for example, was available up to a few years back when I picked up the .org and the .space domains. And it is a name that is significant to me given the Latin influences in the stage of life that precipitated my devotion to doubt as the compass by which useful facts are discovered. So, I didn't have to give up relevance to get originality even after so many people had chosen their domain names and so many more automated domain squatters had moved in on internet "real estate". At the end of the day, people who obsess over just one option leave A LOT; in fact a HELL OF A LOT of untouched virgin territory for anyone willing to put only slightly more into a name than plagiarising someone-else.
It's the same deal, here, I reckon only it'll be more like namespaces in 1998 until the day the Star Citizen player count hits eight figures.
Non-RPG'rs forget that the name has to be about your character or your character's ship, not George Lucas or Gene Roddenberry. So it has to be drawn from the language and culture that would be prominent in your character's backstory while reflecting the circumstances surrounding your character's acquisition of the ship. That takes a little research but it's really quite a rewarding aspect of RPGs ... especially in the long term.
February 24th 2021 at 11:22 pm
This is true, but you know that many people lack that creativity or at the very least are too stubborn to do so, and we will see a bunch of Millennium Falcons, Nostromos, Enterprises, etc.
February 25th 2021 at 7:36 am
You also know that some people will go with xXx M1ll3n1um Fa1c0n xXx 666 anyway, because it's "cool"
February 25th 2021 at 5:20 pm
Really it boils down to what breaks your immersion. Is seeing 60 different alphanumeric variants of "Millennium Falcon" going to kill it, or is seeing 60 "Millennium Falcon"s with different serial numbers? It changes nothing for me, because having 60 versions of "MF" versus 60 variants in the form of "_xXMFXx_" doesn't do anything except signal to me that the captain couldn't be asked to come up with something not from the only movie series they ever praised
February 27th 2021 at 10:52 pm
I would much rather see "Millennium Falcon" multiple times over "M1ll3n1um Fa1c0n", "M1LL3N1UM F4LC0N", or "M|L|eEN[UM F^LCON" even once.
Who are we to decide what other people can or cannot name ships. Let the people have fun.
Believe it or not not everyone wants to call there ship Millennium Falcon or Enterprise.
Who are we to decide what other people can or cannot name ships. Let the people have fun.
Believe it or not not everyone wants to call there ship Millennium Falcon or Enterprise.
March 4th 2021 at 11:09 am
Yes, but they aren't RPG'rs and tend to come and go like leaves in the wind. This is because, if a person can't generate enough backstory to come up with a name that fits their character and gameplay in the context of the actual franchise setting (in this case, Star Citizen, not Star Wars, Star Trek, etc.), that person is incapable of role play - which, funnily enough, is a fundamental part of RPG function. Moreover, I think it's always been the whole "role play" aspect of RPGs which has tended to scare those people away back when RPGs weren't trendy. Many of that inclination will dip their toes in the water then run like a bunyip was after them!
February 25th 2021 at 3:14 pm
Yeah okay Jim with the anime display picture, please continue to tell us about the virtues of originality.
February 25th 2021 at 4:48 pm
Let's not get into avatars, I don't want to hurt you
February 25th 2021 at 5:27 am
It only gets stupider when you realize that your serial number is also plastered on the outside of your ship for everyone to see. Because when even car makers know better, you know its Star Citizen.
For the love of all that is sane, let us opt out of this lunacy of imminent insurance fraud when everyone knows your serial number from a glance. Let us opt out or remove all of this grafiti from our ships.
For the love of all that is sane, let us opt out of this lunacy of imminent insurance fraud when everyone knows your serial number from a glance. Let us opt out or remove all of this grafiti from our ships.
February 25th 2021 at 6:36 am
Ships are akin to planes, not cars
Planes have their ID on the hull
Even still cars all have licence plates, its the same
Its important during emergencies where coms are down or for crash investigations
Planes have their ID on the hull
Even still cars all have licence plates, its the same
Its important during emergencies where coms are down or for crash investigations
February 25th 2021 at 6:41 am
IDs are not the same as serial numbers. IDs dont have to be unique much like licence plates are not all unique across the entirety of the world. Serial numbers are for warrenty and identification of the vehicle across users. IDs are for users.
February 25th 2021 at 6:58 am
No, its all linked
Your flight ID is registered and that's linked to your serial
You can't just paint a new number on the plane and take it to a workshop
You will get flagged and investigated
Same as your car plates argument
Good luck using a number plate from a different country
Not only are they different shapes and colours but even within states/counties they have unique markers
When you take it all into account, each plate is unique
Just happens to be that SC is calling them serials
Their purpose is the same
Your ship will have a unique flight ID on it
I am hoping they use this for cool stuff
Like air traffic control calling us by our flight designation
Couldn't care less about the semantics of the naming convention used to talk about it
Your flight ID is registered and that's linked to your serial
You can't just paint a new number on the plane and take it to a workshop
You will get flagged and investigated
Same as your car plates argument
Good luck using a number plate from a different country
Not only are they different shapes and colours but even within states/counties they have unique markers
When you take it all into account, each plate is unique
Just happens to be that SC is calling them serials
Their purpose is the same
Your ship will have a unique flight ID on it
I am hoping they use this for cool stuff
Like air traffic control calling us by our flight designation
Couldn't care less about the semantics of the naming convention used to talk about it
February 25th 2021 at 9:59 am
Cars have VIN numbers which are unique serial numbers, these are visible on the outside of most cars:
https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/imagegen/max/ccr/1023/-/s3/digital-cougar-assets/whichcar/2018/09/14/-1/VIN-WIDE-PIC.jpg
https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/imagegen/max/ccr/1023/-/s3/digital-cougar-assets/whichcar/2018/09/14/-1/VIN-WIDE-PIC.jpg
No two cars built within 30 years of each other can have the same VIN.
Vehicle registrations are more like "Unique Names" but each country has its own pattern structure on how this names work, they are also linked to your VIN in a government database.
March 2nd 2021 at 4:30 am
You can't possibly be serious?! You know nothing of Lore! You know nothing of MMO's! This happens to be both and the Lore is what captures your Fame or Infamy in game. Most people here are in orgs that are described as Hard Core Role Play so that means they actually want their names and the names of their ship's captured in the lore. If your name means so little then give yourself some pointlessly hashed out blurb or number and carry on. I doubt your game play will be any more interesting than merely that so why bother getting upset about something so basic.
March 5th 2021 at 4:05 am
Wouldn't be Star Citizen without some guy in the comments complaining about a non-issue where their complaint stems from a complete lack of understanding of how anything that relates to their complaint works.
March 5th 2021 at 5:13 am
Wouldn't be Star Citizen without some guy in the comments complaining about someone else's comment where their complaint stems from a complete lack of understanding of how anything that relates to their complaint works.
Fixed that for you.
February 25th 2021 at 1:40 am
Better idea: Lock out "Millenium Falcon", "Enterprise", "Rocinante", etc. If people can't lean on the crutches of using pop-culture names, we won't have this problem at all.
February 25th 2021 at 2:25 am
Locking out names like that will result in the EXACT same situation of having leetspeak to get around the restrictions.
The simplest thing is just to not restrict the names. Why is that so bad?
The simplest thing is just to not restrict the names. Why is that so bad?
February 25th 2021 at 2:30 am
I'm not saying it's bad or not bad. My intended ship names aren't at all likely to be impacted by this, so I have no vested interest either way. CIG has dictated that this is the way it's going to be, however (and they did so a couple years ago with the concept sale of the Corsair, which I sadly wasn't in on) and so if nobody can have the original pop-culture crutch-names, maybe a few hundred people will be inspired to stop crying and name their ships something original rather than resort to "omg iMmErSiOn-BrEaKiNg" l33tsp34k.
February 25th 2021 at 3:03 am
I won't be affected either, I plan on coming up with personal and unique names that I don't think will be replicated.
I just think there is no reason to limit names when people will find a way to have copies regardless. Serial numbers will be unique and that's fine by me. If I'm looking for a ship I'll learn their serial, much harder to hide that than a name anyway.
I just think there is no reason to limit names when people will find a way to have copies regardless. Serial numbers will be unique and that's fine by me. If I'm looking for a ship I'll learn their serial, much harder to hide that than a name anyway.
March 4th 2021 at 11:41 am
The better idea is to allow orgs to reserve a 2-4 character fleet tag which the player can optionally append in a separate prefix field to the name in addition to an instance number field limited to between 2 and 4 characters by the org to distinguish between ships of the same name within the org and then an optional user-generated role tag (also 2-4 characters long and set as a suffix tot he name) which are also optional and can be set up by the player to indicate ship role in fleet operations).
I've made this suggestion here:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/ship-naming-incoming/3863114
So, going full plagiarism-mode, here, let there be an org named "Star Fleet" with org fleet tag NCC and the 786th ship named "Enterprise" which would be unique in combination with the fleet tag/number "NCC-786 Enterprise" or "[NCC-786] Enterprise" to use a common MMO convention. This might change through a variety of role tags which a smart fleet commander would vary with each operation so you might see NCC-786 Enterprise at various events as NCC-786 Enterprise FVN then at a later event as NCC-786 Enterprise FHL as the role of the ship intended by the org or player changes and according to the coding used by the org or by the player. Key to making this work is ensuring that you can't use the fleet tag of an org to which you don't belong and if you use the wrong instance number, well, that's up to the org which now has a sure-fire way to solve the problem if the instance has been assigned to someone else.
Like this, everything can be worked into a familiar format and, without losing functionality or being too intrusive, several hundred ships all named Enterprise will bring the ho-hum a name like this deserves outside its franchise.
I've made this suggestion here:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/ship-naming-incoming/3863114
So, going full plagiarism-mode, here, let there be an org named "Star Fleet" with org fleet tag NCC and the 786th ship named "Enterprise" which would be unique in combination with the fleet tag/number "NCC-786 Enterprise" or "[NCC-786] Enterprise" to use a common MMO convention. This might change through a variety of role tags which a smart fleet commander would vary with each operation so you might see NCC-786 Enterprise at various events as NCC-786 Enterprise FVN then at a later event as NCC-786 Enterprise FHL as the role of the ship intended by the org or player changes and according to the coding used by the org or by the player. Key to making this work is ensuring that you can't use the fleet tag of an org to which you don't belong and if you use the wrong instance number, well, that's up to the org which now has a sure-fire way to solve the problem if the instance has been assigned to someone else.
Like this, everything can be worked into a familiar format and, without losing functionality or being too intrusive, several hundred ships all named Enterprise will bring the ho-hum a name like this deserves outside its franchise.
February 26th 2021 at 8:55 am
Okay, but just how do you decide what is a popular enough name to need a ban? Sure the Millennium Falcon the Executor, and Razor Crest are obvious locks, but what about the more obscure names like Moldy Crow, the Ebon Hawk, the Outrider? Should they just lock every single name on https://theculture.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_spacecraft? Exactly how far into tv, movie, and history wikis do you think CIG should go dumpster diving to find names to ban? Hell, locking out every ship name every used across 60 years of Star Trek would basically mean nearly every place name, or name significant to aviation, naval and space history would then be off limits. And what happens if a new ip comes out with a ship called the Thunder Head, Next Wave, or Amsterdam, gets popular? Do you retroactively force a name change on anyone who had the bad luck to have been using that name already? What's the cut off point for this terrible idea?
February 24th 2021 at 8:14 pm
"A ship's name is unique to that particular model of ship.
Example: A 600i and an 890 Jump can both be named the "Belligerent Duck", but two different players cannot both name their 600i the "Belligerent Duck". "
Stupid , so useless to add serial number with this shit.
We see boat or plane with the same name, the serial number is there to compensate.
I would rather see the same ship name 50 times, than the same name 50 times with additional numbers, or numbers instead of letters
Example: A 600i and an 890 Jump can both be named the "Belligerent Duck", but two different players cannot both name their 600i the "Belligerent Duck". "
Stupid , so useless to add serial number with this shit.
We see boat or plane with the same name, the serial number is there to compensate.
I would rather see the same ship name 50 times, than the same name 50 times with additional numbers, or numbers instead of letters
February 26th 2021 at 3:57 am
Nobody is going to remember a SN. That is what is stupid in this. They will remember a name though so allowing multiples of the same names is in fact stupid.
February 26th 2021 at 9:15 am
I kinda doubt anyone will remember a ship name either. This is just for the owners and maybe their friends.
March 8th 2021 at 6:58 pm
Your belief or doubt is irrelevant. The lore of the game will be written and in it the names of the ships, captains, crewmen involved in the stories the lore encapsulates and I for one am not about to pass on that because some player is too damn lazy to use their imagination to come up with a unique name for their ship! If entire countries can manage to limit Custom License Plates to One per Vehicle then it is completely doable in a game that actually REQUIRES that you have a functioning IMAGINATION! On release Star Citizen will be 100% Player Provided Content (hint - this requires imagination) and if you are too daft to think up a bloody name then this is probably not the game for you because gameplay is BASED on IMAGINATION!
February 25th 2021 at 1:02 am
Exactly the deciding factor should be the serial number, the name can be whatever the person wants since the serial number is there to identify the ship, baffles me that CIG could not figure that out.
What ewe see again is the dumbest way to implement something, people pay a lot of money for their ships and are now forced to either be lucky to get the name they want, come up with some shitty variation for it, or be forced to just pick some random name.
What ewe see again is the dumbest way to implement something, people pay a lot of money for their ships and are now forced to either be lucky to get the name they want, come up with some shitty variation for it, or be forced to just pick some random name.
March 2nd 2021 at 4:41 am
LMFAO! So you care so little for your name or the name of your ship then just take some obscure blurb or number and move along! There are those of us who have orgs that are described quite intentionally as Hard Core Role Play. This requires unique ship names because players of this caliber actually want their names and the names of their ships captured in the page of the lore of the game. Go ahead on with lazy mediocrity, I doubt your game play will be anymore imaginable.
February 24th 2021 at 8:01 pm
Well this definitely won't cause a bunch of drama and create a new grey market for the buying and selling of names like Enterprise and Millennium Falcon...
February 24th 2021 at 11:35 pm
Exactly. The first wave will likely try to name their ships iconic names like Enterprise and Millennium Falcon in the hopes their value on any external markets will increase exponentially and can sell them on for a profit.
February 25th 2021 at 1:02 pm
And ? Even if some people do it what is the problem ? A lot of uniques and limited items are already on the grey market. And thoses in the first wave would take it ANYWAY, even if they don't sale it.
So for me, the "it would be sale on grey market" is not an argument at all, and be soooo marginal that no one would considere it.
Stay on "i want to be able to take any names", this have more sense.
So for me, the "it would be sale on grey market" is not an argument at all, and be soooo marginal that no one would considere it.
Stay on "i want to be able to take any names", this have more sense.
February 26th 2021 at 8:08 am
"it would be sale on grey market" is not an argument at all, and be soooo marginal that no one would considere it.
Have you been to a grey market website recently? I can assure you it's not that marginal. Sure, the MAJORITY of backers don't sell their ships. But you can ALWAYS find limited ships (890J, Kraken, etc) sold for double their price on those sites at any moment. Now imagine with UNIQUE names, and cool pop culture inspired names with that. Those would easily sell for 3 times their price, or even more. If people are ready to pay double because they are too lazy to just WAIT for IAE, imagine how much they would be ready to pay for that same ship with the UNIQUE NAME they dream of showing ingame, knowing perfectly they will be the ONLY ONE with that name, they could brag about that unique ship all day...
Sure, it still wouldn't be the majority, but if I had a Kraken I could sell for $10.000 or more because it's named USS Enterprise or something like that, I would definitely do it and buy 3 of them with the profits, or just keep the money... Rest assured people WILL do it. I would even be ready to sell my 890J if it was for $5.000 (I don't care, I could buy a FULL ORIGIN COMPLETE PACK for that money and still make a profit). These unique ship naming conditions will just put more speculations on the rare ship with rare name combination. Not counting that people wanting to sell those combinations will surely jump even more on limited ships during IAE, resulting in less chance for others to get one...
Sure, it still wouldn't be the majority, but if I had a Kraken I could sell for $10.000 or more because it's named USS Enterprise or something like that, I would definitely do it and buy 3 of them with the profits, or just keep the money... Rest assured people WILL do it. I would even be ready to sell my 890J if it was for $5.000 (I don't care, I could buy a FULL ORIGIN COMPLETE PACK for that money and still make a profit). These unique ship naming conditions will just put more speculations on the rare ship with rare name combination. Not counting that people wanting to sell those combinations will surely jump even more on limited ships during IAE, resulting in less chance for others to get one...
March 3rd 2021 at 5:42 pm
LMFAO! So you care so little for the enjoyment of other players that you would want this incredibly stupid naming system. Ships in real life have the same names, I can say for certain there's at least two fishing boats named "the duckling" in this world, But each have different numbers to differentiate between the two. Why can't we have that in star citizen?
March 4th 2021 at 10:22 am
For me, names like "Rocinante", "Enterprise" and "Millennium Falcon" are only iconic in their respective franchises. Outside their franchises they're very ho-hum and names which are meaningful in the real-world culture I'm exposed to tend to be more compelling; names like
- Hamersley,
- Ningen
- Bunyip
- Muldjewangk
- Drop Bear
- Kelpie
- Carman
- Caorthannach
And, sometimes, a name just suits what a ship looks like. My 600i Explorer has been named Orca since the day I acquired her, if I recall - some time before all the fuss.
In another example, the Millennial Falcon would be a much more iconic name than Millennium Falcon outside the Star Wars franchise because it says something about the actual user instead of saying something about George Lucas.
In another example, the Millennial Falcon would be a much more iconic name than Millennium Falcon outside the Star Wars franchise because it says something about the actual user instead of saying something about George Lucas.
February 25th 2021 at 8:45 am
^ this.
I'm not really interested in naming an object, so I'm not really bothered by the fact that it is unique even though with ship having serial number I find it unnecessary.
But on the other hand I really can't wrap my mind on how CIG think it would be OK to keep the name when the ship is trade away...
It's like this rule is specifically catering to grey market and inflating ship price, now seller will just end-up trying to reserve names they don't care about just to sell them.
I'm not really interested in naming an object, so I'm not really bothered by the fact that it is unique even though with ship having serial number I find it unnecessary.
But on the other hand I really can't wrap my mind on how CIG think it would be OK to keep the name when the ship is trade away...
It's like this rule is specifically catering to grey market and inflating ship price, now seller will just end-up trying to reserve names they don't care about just to sell them.
February 25th 2021 at 3:21 pm
Only if there is a perceived value in having the name. It's why I'm choosing names that have personal meaning to me, and not associated with a well known science fiction franchise. Names are meant to be personal rather than ubiquitous references to popular culture.
February 24th 2021 at 8:31 pm
Only serial numbers should be unique you guys are so good at creating a shit storm.
February 25th 2021 at 1:05 am
Happens when you let Interns decide stuff like this, not that they already had shitshows back when the first ships got nametags.
That the serial number should be the deciding factor was also a discussion back then but as always CIG dies not listen to feedback and comes up with the "most special" way to implement something.
But hey good news for any greymakrt seller that now can hike his price up by a few hundred $$$ for having a ship called Enterprise or Millennium Falcon.
Once again the bar was not high but they manage to run under it with room to spare.....
That the serial number should be the deciding factor was also a discussion back then but as always CIG dies not listen to feedback and comes up with the "most special" way to implement something.
But hey good news for any greymakrt seller that now can hike his price up by a few hundred $$$ for having a ship called Enterprise or Millennium Falcon.
Once again the bar was not high but they manage to run under it with room to spare.....
February 24th 2021 at 8:14 pm
Please, this will be horrible. Can't you just let us name our ships anything we want and have a serial number or something? Please....
February 25th 2021 at 11:59 am
Of course they can't do that!
CIG can't do $h!t the easy way and simply make serialnumbers the deciding factor instead and block out inappropriate names with all variations and numbers in them.
No instead they go through a convoluted way of setting up waves and thereby descriminate other folks who haven't backed pricy ships earl. grrrr
CIG can't do $h!t the easy way and simply make serialnumbers the deciding factor instead and block out inappropriate names with all variations and numbers in them.
No instead they go through a convoluted way of setting up waves and thereby descriminate other folks who haven't backed pricy ships earl. grrrr
February 25th 2021 at 12:11 pm
That is CIGs way of acknowledging players who advance their cash on something non-existent.
Sounds to me like you're complaining about merrited treatment.
I think you'd do good for a change to thank those who pay up early so that you can have fun later on. But then again, that is a highly controversial and unpopular opinion.
As far as I'm concerned, that is the right way to go. @Skelting-CIG pass on a thank you for whomever decided to have this kind of acknowledgement going. It puts things back into perspective.
Sounds to me like you're complaining about merrited treatment.
I think you'd do good for a change to thank those who pay up early so that you can have fun later on. But then again, that is a highly controversial and unpopular opinion.
As far as I'm concerned, that is the right way to go. @Skelting-CIG pass on a thank you for whomever decided to have this kind of acknowledgement going. It puts things back into perspective.
March 2nd 2021 at 4:47 am
Nope! Why? Game Lore, Inventory System, Take your pick! The bottom line is you're going to need to invest some of that limited imagination to come up with Unique Ship's Names (not that this is difficult to do) because the vast majority of players are in fact described as Hard Core Role Play which means they want their names and the names of their ship's captured in the annals of the games Lore whether it be Fame or Infamy! If you care so little for your own then take a number or some other blurb equally lacking any imagination. Your game play will about as interesting because you actually need imagination to play this game! Player Provided Content! Deal with it!
February 24th 2021 at 8:19 pm
Unique names are not a good decision.
I love SC, I often agree with difficult decisions, but unique names are a wrong decision in my opinio. PLS change it.
I love SC, I often agree with difficult decisions, but unique names are a wrong decision in my opinio. PLS change it.
March 2nd 2021 at 4:51 am
So then take a bullshit name that means nothing to anyone! Your game play will be about as interesting as the imagination you control because this game will not have all the missions you see now. No no! This is about 100% Player Provided Content! Besides, most of us actually want out names and the names of our ships included in the games lore regardless if it is Fame or Infamy! Get with the program already!
February 24th 2021 at 8:40 pm
This makes no sense - the entire point of having serials numbers is to allow names to be whatever you want, as it is the serial # that will be unique per the ship and not the name. Not to mention just now how fast most names will be reserved - and how many hours will it take to try names over and over and over and over until you finally find that you can name your MSR 'Th3 M3l|ien!um Fa|c0n' - it will look ridiculous and severely takes away from the fidelity of the game.
Also, what happens if someone grabs a name and never logs in again? Too bad, I guess, gone forever.
Additionally, for ships if the serial number is the unique identifier - having ATC call out 'Charlie Romeo Xray Dash Niner One Three Two Eight Zero, you are cleared for Hangar 5' would be completely doable by having npc voice actors record phonetic alphabet lines. Those same npcs could not reliably see 'M1llen!um Fa|c0n' as 'Millenium Falcon', and would absolutely butcher more esoteric names.
And bear in mind, this is only now - what happens when the game goes live and you have 10x or more the number of ships going around for players - not to mention npc ships as well!
Also, what happens if someone grabs a name and never logs in again? Too bad, I guess, gone forever.
Additionally, for ships if the serial number is the unique identifier - having ATC call out 'Charlie Romeo Xray Dash Niner One Three Two Eight Zero, you are cleared for Hangar 5' would be completely doable by having npc voice actors record phonetic alphabet lines. Those same npcs could not reliably see 'M1llen!um Fa|c0n' as 'Millenium Falcon', and would absolutely butcher more esoteric names.
And bear in mind, this is only now - what happens when the game goes live and you have 10x or more the number of ships going around for players - not to mention npc ships as well!
February 24th 2021 at 8:31 pm
I agree with a huge bulk of the other posters:
- Ships should not require unique names. Let people name them whatever they want! (Like boats in the real world.)
- Each ship should have a unique registration number / Serial number. Both name and serial should be used in display. (Think how something like discord handles it - "MilleniumFalcon#4151", etc.)
February 24th 2021 at 8:58 pm
Tbh the news reporting in the Verse will be WAY better if there's just one MSR called the 'Belligerent Duck' versus having to say: "the MSR with reg number 8FX-473652-230002345" all the time.
If we want our actions to be woven into the lore of the game this is definitely the better option.
Still, you can have (let's say you want to name it 'duck'):
Duck
The Duck
HMS Duck
HSS Duck
UEENV Duck
etc. etc.
So there's quite a big chance you can have something close to what you want, I think.
If we want our actions to be woven into the lore of the game this is definitely the better option.
Still, you can have (let's say you want to name it 'duck'):
Duck
The Duck
HMS Duck
HSS Duck
UEENV Duck
etc. etc.
So there's quite a big chance you can have something close to what you want, I think.
February 24th 2021 at 9:37 pm
you really think that will stop people 8ell1gerent Duck
February 24th 2021 at 9:50 pm
Doesn't matter, if the lore piece says "Belligerent Duck" no one will ever think "8ell1gerent Duck" is that same ship.
February 25th 2021 at 7:43 am
No, and even without restrictions you'll have stupid names anyway. With leet speak. So what's the difference?
February 25th 2021 at 3:09 pm
I get to name my ship what I want without the worry that someone else already has it, Regardless of whether its from some form of popular media or not.
even if people attempt to be "original" there still going to get shafted by this system as is
even if people attempt to be "original" there still going to get shafted by this system as is
February 26th 2021 at 8:53 pm
I actually think this is more close to real life..
In real life, everyone can name their boat "Enterprise". Why aren't all boats named "Enterprise"? Lots of nuanced reasons, but in short in my mind it comes down to two main reasons:
In real life, everyone can name their boat "Enterprise". Why aren't all boats named "Enterprise"? Lots of nuanced reasons, but in short in my mind it comes down to two main reasons:
- It would fall out of style or be silly if everyone had the same thing. People at the end of the day gravitate toward something unique and something they have a passion about.
- There's a huge possible liability if you have the same name as someone else in the real world.
For #2, Imagine the newscast:
"The MSR that attacked Port Olisar, 'Belligerent Duck' is now wanted by UEE authorities and has a 2,000,000 UEC bounty."
Just like real life, if multiple people have the same name. My guess is the actual bounty would have the serial/hull number - but in short order, lots of cool things are going to happen:
- Flurry of people that go "Oh crap, I need to rename my ship so I don't get mistakenly targeted."
- Flurry of people mistakenly getting targeted/shot/captured with same ship names because people are hunting the bounty and didn't check the serial #.
I think having no unique names will eventually reach a state of equilibrium. As time progresses, new, in-game names will become popular and wax and wane.
Ideally the best of both worlds would be to have a marker/flair for the FIRST ship with a unique name. That is the best of all worlds - anyone can have "Belligerent Duck", but the OG one is recognizable.
Ideally the best of both worlds would be to have a marker/flair for the FIRST ship with a unique name. That is the best of all worlds - anyone can have "Belligerent Duck", but the OG one is recognizable.
March 2nd 2021 at 4:57 am
Nope! There will never be a point where this levels out. The vast majority of players are in orgs describing themselves as Hard Core Role Play. They actually want to have their names and the names of their ships and crews captured in the games Lore! If you care so little for your own then by all means, create your own equilibrium and pick some meaningless obscure blurb or number as a name. In a game of 100% Player Provided Content you're losing and the game hasn't even started yet. You actually need an imagination to play this moving forward.
March 3rd 2021 at 8:19 pm
You seem so confident in all your answers, but Nope! I know the people in my org would hate to fly into people named "3nt3rpr1s3" and we would much rather see multiple ships named "Enterprise #XXX-XXX". Besides how many names do you think will have thousands of people lining up to use them. People are more mad that there is a chance that one or two other people might have thought of the same name as them, so now you have to find something else to use.
February 24th 2021 at 9:03 pm
This is the dumbest thing ever, it's almost like they didn't even bother to think twice.
What's the point of adding a serial number if you can't have the same name?
Shooting Star - SN 12345
Shooting Star - SN 12344
Shooting Star - SN 12343
What's the problem here? What a beautiful way of destroying such an immersive feature. Well done, indeed, CIG. Nobody could've done it but you.
What's the point of adding a serial number if you can't have the same name?
Shooting Star - SN 12345
Shooting Star - SN 12344
Shooting Star - SN 12343
What's the problem here? What a beautiful way of destroying such an immersive feature. Well done, indeed, CIG. Nobody could've done it but you.
February 24th 2021 at 11:23 pm
This is perfect. You've solved the problem. I hope they reconsider and use something like your presentation. I can even see a unique lingo develop in SC to avoid confusion "Andromeda: Shooting Star 345, drop your shields and prepare to be boarded!"
February 25th 2021 at 4:37 pm
Websites have unique IPs AND unique names.
It's ok buddy just pick something else if the name you want is taken.
It's ok buddy just pick something else if the name you want is taken.
February 26th 2021 at 10:38 am
Not really you can name your Website whatever you want. IPs and Domains are both serial numbers and only unique in their own network and domain registry. There is a huge range of IP address ranges that are free to use for everyone and as long as you only use the private ones in your own network no one will ever know. There is a google.com and google.de these names are handled by different companies and even more the connection of domain to IP is even handled by another company.
It's like paying Crusader for shipname.cru and paying Hurtons for shipname.hur then you pay the UEE for UEE-0001. Then someone asks Port Tressler "hey can tell me who shipname.cru is?" and they are like "Sure they are UEE-0001" and then they contact UEE-0001.
It's like paying Crusader for shipname.cru and paying Hurtons for shipname.hur then you pay the UEE for UEE-0001. Then someone asks Port Tressler "hey can tell me who shipname.cru is?" and they are like "Sure they are UEE-0001" and then they contact UEE-0001.
February 24th 2021 at 8:03 pm
I'm not sure I understand the point of unique Serial Numbers if Ship Names are also unique per hull...
With the more recent announcement of Serial Numbers, I was hopping that it would mean we could in fact get the Name we want even if they already exist. But if they are also unique per hull, I feel like this is just a missed opportunity to make everyone happy, and it makes the Serial Numbers redundant...?
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't create something for it to become useless, so I guess I am just missing some important information regarding Serial Numbers for the future, but I'm just worried about the unique Name thing
With the more recent announcement of Serial Numbers, I was hopping that it would mean we could in fact get the Name we want even if they already exist. But if they are also unique per hull, I feel like this is just a missed opportunity to make everyone happy, and it makes the Serial Numbers redundant...?
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't create something for it to become useless, so I guess I am just missing some important information regarding Serial Numbers for the future, but I'm just worried about the unique Name thing
February 24th 2021 at 11:33 pm
I would speculate that when your ship explodes/stolen/lost in a black hole and you get a new one to replace it the serial number will change but you retain exclusive rights to the name in the hull.
February 25th 2021 at 8:19 am
That makes no sense at all. I can name my MSR Serial Nr. 2547997452 "Falcon" and if she gets destoryed I'll name my clamied replacment MSR now Serial Nr. 4268422154 "Falcon" as well. The Serial Nr. would be what identifies the MSR as MY ship, not the name.
February 25th 2021 at 5:49 pm
Think about it, if you buy a car it has a serial number, if you then crash that car and it is snapped in half upside down in a ditch on fire the insurance company is going to pay out so you can buy a replacement car that has a different serial number. you can call both cars "Bob" if you want but the serial number is linked to the individual car.
if you want to keep the serial number i suspect you are going to have to drag that car out of the ditch, put out the fire, weld it back together and spend time/money fixing it. #gameplay #imagine
if you want to keep the serial number i suspect you are going to have to drag that car out of the ditch, put out the fire, weld it back together and spend time/money fixing it. #gameplay #imagine
February 26th 2021 at 5:17 pm
HawkSsaid
That makes no sense at all. I can name my MSR Serial Nr. 2547997452 "Falcon" and if she gets destoryed I'll name my clamied replacment MSR now Serial Nr. 4268422154 "Falcon" as well. The Serial Nr. would be what identifies the MSR as MY ship, not the name.
And what if it's STOLEN? The stolen MSR would still have the original serial number, and your newly insurance claimed MSR would have the same serial number? Your new ship would need a new serial number, so it makes total sense.
February 26th 2021 at 5:47 pm
I report the ship stolen. Insurance gives me a -new- ship (thats what isnurance does it gives you a new ship with stock load out) this new MSR then has a new Serial Nr. 5897425 and I name it - "Falcon".
Meanwhile the thief flies around in my old Nr. 4268422154 "Falcon", the thief gets captured and sent to Klesher while the insurance company e.g. sells the old MSR or it gets scrapped. No problem here.
Meanwhile the thief flies around in my old Nr. 4268422154 "Falcon", the thief gets captured and sent to Klesher while the insurance company e.g. sells the old MSR or it gets scrapped. No problem here.
February 26th 2021 at 10:21 am
Realistically stealing ships doesn't change their name at least not until you paint a different name on it and hack their transponder. So then the stolen ship and the new claimed ship would have the same ship name but different serial numbers. So why are names unique in the first place?*
*Rhetoric question I know it's about money.
*Rhetoric question I know it's about money.
March 1st 2021 at 8:16 pm
The serial number is likely to differentiate which instance of the same player's ship it was (after it's predecessor was destroyed)
The unique name requirement is a CIG sales gimmick - there is not a good in-game reason for it.
Because every ship will have a unique serial number, the name could (and should) just be cosmetic (just like the ship skin).
By requiring the name to be unique too, they have created scarcity which gives naming priority value. That makes CIG money because it incentivizes players to buy ships sooner and hold them longer. Since the name only has to be unique by hull-type, they can capitalize on customer FOMO every single hull sale.
"Buy now, buy early if you want the chance to actually name your ship something you can pronounce"
It's entirely a pro-CIG, anti-player move which is why I think some people are very upset.
The unique name requirement is a CIG sales gimmick - there is not a good in-game reason for it.
Because every ship will have a unique serial number, the name could (and should) just be cosmetic (just like the ship skin).
By requiring the name to be unique too, they have created scarcity which gives naming priority value. That makes CIG money because it incentivizes players to buy ships sooner and hold them longer. Since the name only has to be unique by hull-type, they can capitalize on customer FOMO every single hull sale.
"Buy now, buy early if you want the chance to actually name your ship something you can pronounce"
It's entirely a pro-CIG, anti-player move which is why I think some people are very upset.
February 24th 2021 at 9:03 pm
I have never posted since my supporting since 2016 but you have serial numbers on the hulls, unique names don't need to be limited. Think about the real VERSE here, do you honestly think all those BILLIONS of Citizens would follow this same law and principle of a Single name to a Starship. The answer is no because it is unrealistic, we have serial numbers for this. I understand that were looking to create a unique principle to allow Citizens to stand out from other players, but surely there is a million other ways to do this. I love the idea of serial numbers and naming of our ships, sadly I feel this needs to be looked at again.
February 26th 2021 at 9:10 pm
i rather support it. should it be for every ship? no. but should it be for a few hand picked ships? yes. take the 890 for example its a luxury ship its the reason we remember "the gatsby" so well. but should someone with a cutty black have the option to name theirs? probably not. im not saying to reserve it for the rich but hand pick the ships the popular more notable ones get a name the rest i dont see the point with. for me the reclaimer is as borderline as id go. my vulture is designed to do a job not to try stand out like dogs balls. ships that stand out or sohuld stand out deserve the names the rest its a pointless feature. this also applies to the 100 and 300 series. If they really must need a name it should be from their parent ship similar to life rafts.
February 24th 2021 at 10:23 pm
This decision is just not logical at all, I'm not even someone who cares that much about naming my ships and I can see that.
- Someone who owns most or every ship and has been a backer since the start can basically hoard ship names against every ship. Some literally have multiple of most of the ships, so can literally block out multiple popular Original names across all of these ships. Where it is also unlikely if not frankly impossible for all of these to see any use, so will be sat in the hangar and not used. (People literally hoard limited hull ships so others can't have them)
- Ship names is not a place to "reward" early backers or those that pledge more, because it actually negatively impacts everyone else who cannot afford to spend that much or joined later. By the time it gets to the majority of the player base most of the names many want to use will be gone.
- What is the point of Unique indentifiers if the name is also unique. There's a reason that ships in the real world have the name you choose and the unique identifier.
- You will just end up with gamertag names for ships, so what is the point in ship names if they basically look the same as the account ID. Completely defeats the point. There is nothing stopping people just doing endless variations of ship names.
- People will exploit this and sell/buy ships with the "Name" they want on the grey market, you are basically just facilitating this.
I can see the logic in other decisions being made, and even defend them, but this one is frankly absurd. It just seems to be pandering to the top level backers who've been around a while, rather than actually considering the wider impact on the majority of the community.
CR said you don't need to give more money than people have and don't need more than a starter package, and then you make it near enough impossible for those same people to have a chance to name their ship anything close to what they want to. All while talking about it like it's an accessible feature and available to everyone, which it clearly isn't and anyone can see that.
CR said you don't need to give more money than people have and don't need more than a starter package, and then you make it near enough impossible for those same people to have a chance to name their ship anything close to what they want to. All while talking about it like it's an accessible feature and available to everyone, which it clearly isn't and anyone can see that.
February 25th 2021 at 10:38 pm
thank you for saying something, seems like no one cares . used to be they tried to act a little bit like they where not so greedy and cared some what about players. they could nto have one ship of each class, they had to make it al the ridiculous expensive ships. treating the rest of us like 2nd class star citizens .closing wallet on this game .
February 24th 2021 at 9:41 pm
The names will be unique per hull. For example, there can be several ships named “Shooting Star” but only one 600i, Reclaimer, or 890 Jump with the name.
Why? This IMO is a bad idea. People should be able to name their ship whatever they want it to be. Two players want to both have the name "Shooting Star", so what? If you're already doing a unique identifier say for example "NCC-1701" on front of Shooting Star then that number will always serve as a distinguisher between them.
The whole idea that someone else is calling their ship a specific name excludes me from calling my ship the same name is IMO a bit ridiculous. Star Citizen is a game going for a huge amount of immersion and realism and I think to match that it should follow suit in naming. In real life there is nothing stopping two people from calling their car "Knight Rider" so why try to make a system that imposes that here?
The whole idea that someone else is calling their ship a specific name excludes me from calling my ship the same name is IMO a bit ridiculous. Star Citizen is a game going for a huge amount of immersion and realism and I think to match that it should follow suit in naming. In real life there is nothing stopping two people from calling their car "Knight Rider" so why try to make a system that imposes that here?
February 24th 2021 at 11:11 pm
If you're already doing a unique identifier say for example "NC-1701" on front of Shooting Star then that number will always serve as a distinguisher between them
Agreed. The precedent is already set: Star Trek. There are multiple "Enterprise" ships, AND with different hulls. Their serial numbers were unique and that was fine for almost everyone who watched the shows (let's also not forget the different KINDS of ships shown in the Star Trek: Enterprise TV series intro)
Serial numbers are enough, so please use precedent practiced in TV and film, and IRL.
Serial numbers are enough, so please use precedent practiced in TV and film, and IRL.
February 25th 2021 at 9:27 pm
There were never two Enterprises in operation at the same time, only one.
And the preceding Enterprise was decommissioned (in some cases destroyed on duty) before the replacement ship entered active service.
They all shared the same NCC- 1701 registry, with only the revision number changing at the end.
So there was only ever “one” Enterprise in operation, and it had the same ship registry, with only the revision number changing.
So by saying you want it to be “like star trek” you are saying you want unique ship names per hull, which is what they are giving you.
And the preceding Enterprise was decommissioned (in some cases destroyed on duty) before the replacement ship entered active service.
They all shared the same NCC- 1701 registry, with only the revision number changing at the end.
So there was only ever “one” Enterprise in operation, and it had the same ship registry, with only the revision number changing.
So by saying you want it to be “like star trek” you are saying you want unique ship names per hull, which is what they are giving you.
February 25th 2021 at 12:51 am
I'll be waiting for your tears when you have to try and ID a ship on the fly by #29385293058 instead of a name. Not to mention your own example is wrong. I am not a super buff on Star Trek, but as far as I know every ship named Enterprise was a different hull type. Every single one of them was a different class or a refit of the older class.
February 25th 2021 at 1:37 am
not exactly true. which is why ships have both a number and letter designation. nods for instance, NC-1701 vs NC-1701-A. In fact, STO (Star Trek Online) uses that same naming convention, ie, you can name the ship pretty much anything you want (nothing vulgar, in most instances) along with setting its serial number and if you so choose, a letter designation. so you could have Enterprise NC-1701, or Enterprise NC-1701-A (through Z, if you were so inclined). Though I will point out that in STO, you can technically do the same thing across all ships provided it is not the same hull. Though its sorta boring to do so, IMO.
February 25th 2021 at 1:53 am
Did you miss my whole point? Trying to use numbers to ID ships is going to be a pain in the ass and adds nothing to the game. In STO the names are meaningless. No one has a famous ship that people know based on its name. The names on the ships are pure visual vanity. Meaningless. I don't want to have to try and remember a potentially long ass number to tell if its the ship I think it is. The dreaded #982950 is coming, run!! You get it? Again, the names should have a purpose. People are just a bunch of uncreative cry babies who don't want to think for themselves. If they want to use some stupid ass l337 speak BS that's on them. All it does is tell me something about the person who owns it. Who cares.
February 24th 2021 at 11:16 pm
I don't understand why they went in the middle on this one. Names should be either fully unique, or none are unique, not this "it's unique but only per hull" thing, which just means names aren't unique at all.
What's more disappointing, is I've only seen them suggesting names that pretend to replicate ships from sci-fi shows. What about the simple folk, that just want to name their ship after their wife, "The Susan", like so many boat owners out there, god knows how many Citizens need to get in their Wife's good books for how much they've spent on this game. Sorry, your wife's name is already taken.
What's more disappointing, is I've only seen them suggesting names that pretend to replicate ships from sci-fi shows. What about the simple folk, that just want to name their ship after their wife, "The Susan", like so many boat owners out there, god knows how many Citizens need to get in their Wife's good books for how much they've spent on this game. Sorry, your wife's name is already taken.
February 25th 2021 at 12:56 am
CIG wants millions of players, also CIG does not want more than one ship with the same name....
Once again they should stop letting Interns make decisions, baffles me that anyone at CIG thought this is a good idea..... heck if anyone actually thinks this is the best they can come up with then I see a grim future for this project.
Once again they should stop letting Interns make decisions, baffles me that anyone at CIG thought this is a good idea..... heck if anyone actually thinks this is the best they can come up with then I see a grim future for this project.
February 24th 2021 at 8:34 pm
Y'all really did it in on this one. Simple solution here. Identify each ship by an id number but the names do not have to be unique.
February 24th 2021 at 8:40 pm
Unique names are a bad idea pls rethink this
February 25th 2021 at 1:29 pm
Hello,
I'm happy to announce that ship naming and serial numbers will also be available for Anvil Carrack pilots with the upcoming Alpha 3.13 patch. I've updated the OP with the wave info.
I'm happy to announce that ship naming and serial numbers will also be available for Anvil Carrack pilots with the upcoming Alpha 3.13 patch. I've updated the OP with the wave info.
February 25th 2021 at 2:32 pm
Ulf-CIGsaid
Hello,
I'm happy to announce that ship naming and serial numbers will also be available for Anvil Carrack pilots with the upcoming Alpha 3.13 patch. I've updated the OP with the wave info.
I'm happy to announce that ship naming and serial numbers will also be available for Anvil Carrack pilots with the upcoming Alpha 3.13 patch. I've updated the OP with the wave info.
What about the Carrack Expedition @Skelting-CIG ? CIG already sold us a very expensive skin only to suddenly replace it with a lesser version and now it also doesn't qualify for a ship name?
So not only did those people see their exclusive skin get replaced by a weak copy; but they are now also at the back of the line in terms on naming their ship?
I have to say that I find this rather disheartening.
So not only did those people see their exclusive skin get replaced by a weak copy; but they are now also at the back of the line in terms on naming their ship?
I have to say that I find this rather disheartening.
February 26th 2021 at 5:55 pm
This be us Expedition Owners...(A little Ironic this ship is called Disco Lando's favorite ship )
February 25th 2021 at 10:49 pm
ship naming isn't available to anyone until the beginning of march. if you have a carrack expedition it's still eligible for the ship naming WHEN THE FEATURE IS ENABLED
February 25th 2021 at 11:06 pm
Is it treated as a completely different ship then or is it also treated as a Carrack? You see, when people upgraded their Carrack to the Carrack Expedition the date would have likely also changed. So they might have had an original concept sale Carrack from 2014 but when they upgraded it to that Expedition skin the date of that ship might have suddenly changed to 2020.
However, if it's treated as a completely different/separate ship then I have no problems with it as then people would/should still be able to use the same names as the people who named their Carrack. I just hope those people with the Expedition skin wouldn't suddenly be placed at the back of the line or be locked out of every name that other regular Carrack owners used.
However, if it's treated as a completely different/separate ship then I have no problems with it as then people would/should still be able to use the same names as the people who named their Carrack. I just hope those people with the Expedition skin wouldn't suddenly be placed at the back of the line or be locked out of every name that other regular Carrack owners used.
February 27th 2021 at 11:38 am
I have an original concept Reclaimer (I know it's not a Carrack but stay with me) from 2014, so by rights when naming for the Reclaimer is active on the 1st I should be golden... however, I also applied the 2949 Best in show skin in 2020 which, is technically a different ship much like the Expedition and yet my initial pledge date hasn't changed. So in short just applying a skin, even if it technically "changes" the ship designation, it should not effect when they get access to reserve a name. To answer your other question, as of right now (will probably change later judging by the backlash) names are unique to the HULL of the ship and not the variant, so if you named a Cutlass Black "The Booty Bus" no other cutlass whether it be a Black, Blue or Red can have that same name, you could however name your Carrack "The Booty Bus" as well, but not any other variant of the Carrack, same goes for any other ship so you could call at least one of any/every other ship you have "The Booty Bus" providing you are the 1st person to use that specific name on that ship hull type. Again, this might change? at some point going by the massive amount of negative feedback but at least for now, that's the deal... hope that helps?
February 25th 2021 at 5:51 pm
Awesome - now report that ship names can be dublicates and its the UNIQUE ship Serial Number that is the unique identifier for a ship.
March 3rd 2021 at 8:46 pm
PLEASE CIG LISTEN TO THE BACKERS JUST THIS ONCE!
February 25th 2021 at 1:32 pm
How exactly will we be able to do this. I have the Exploration Mega Pack 2950, and no naming options for either my Carrack Expedition, or 600i that came in the pack.
February 25th 2021 at 2:28 pm
I've read it, the point I'm making is that per the FAQ, I do not have a "NAMEING" tab for any of these two ships I own, which suggests this was a feature not given to the current ships I have which apply to this small list, which should really be all ships, not a "select few".
February 24th 2021 at 8:22 pm
Unique ship names sound cool on paper but is a ridiculous decision in practice. Why should ships have unique names?
February 25th 2021 at 12:47 am
So they have a purpose? Let me give you an example. A Hammerhead jumps into your system. It has the name Hammer of Doom. This same ship, easily recognized because its the ONLY ONE, has been destroying people left and right. You know it, and react to it. It adds a layer of lore to the game. With things the way everyone here is asking for that wont be possible. There could be 100 Hammerheads with the same name and unless they have also memorized its serial number (however fucking long those might end up) it will just be another ship. Whats the point of naming a ship if it means absolutely nothing to anyone but you? I seriously don't get people on this one. There is plenty to bitch about in SC. This isn't one of them.
February 25th 2021 at 2:00 am
Yeah but given the literally millions of ships that have been sold already, you'll be faced with Hamm3r of Doom, Hammer of D00M, Hammer of Dooom etc. Pretty soon having unique names is going to become ugly and immersion-breaking.
February 25th 2021 at 2:09 am
And I would know instantly that it isn't the ship I am thinking of.... How hard is this for people to grasp? By your logic and own words I would be looking at Hammer of Doom 0-9999999 and have to figure out what number is the one I am thinking of. I don't want to have to use a number to ID a ship. Its boring and tedious.
Can you explain to me what would be the point of even having names for our ships if anyone can have any name? What does it add, besides some colored pixles on the side of a ship? The entire point of making names unique, something that is tied to a ship hull, and not just some decal or something is so it adds to the game and serves a purpose. I want to make a name for my ships and know others based on the same. I don't want to see Hammer of Doom and go "is that Hammer of Doom 239523 or Hammer of Doom 95368 that killed me yesterday?" By taking away the uniqueness of the name your taking away from the game itself. Making the feature basically pointless.
Can you explain to me what would be the point of even having names for our ships if anyone can have any name? What does it add, besides some colored pixles on the side of a ship? The entire point of making names unique, something that is tied to a ship hull, and not just some decal or something is so it adds to the game and serves a purpose. I want to make a name for my ships and know others based on the same. I don't want to see Hammer of Doom and go "is that Hammer of Doom 239523 or Hammer of Doom 95368 that killed me yesterday?" By taking away the uniqueness of the name your taking away from the game itself. Making the feature basically pointless.
February 25th 2021 at 2:50 pm
Can you explain to me what would be the point of even having names for our ships if anyone can have any name?
You mean like how it's worked in real life since the dawn of time, and worked pretty damn well thus far?
Ships earn their reputation. 99.99999999999% of the ships in this game will never, ever be notorious, famous or well known at all. They'll just be one of countless uninteresting ships you see on your voyages every single day. Why should there be some enforced law where only one ship in the entire universe can be named "Bill"? This is so, so stupid.
If the escapades of you and your ship is enough to earn fame and fortune, then you don't need a unique hull name in order for people to know exactly who you are.
March 4th 2021 at 12:21 am
That's great till you get destroyed by 32 characters of just dfjshgfiugsdiufg and now that's part of lore and good luck finding that exact ship name. They should just display the pilots name that way you can still smuggle people from system to system and call your ship whatever you want
February 25th 2021 at 8:04 am
All due respect but I don't think you understand the frustration of naming things in MMO games, or how MMOs work.
Maybe in our fantasy that one player who actually got to name his ship Hammer of Doom became really famous and contributed to the lore. But in reality, the famous HH player only gets to name his ship xxXXHAmm3r 0f d00MXXxx because the name was taken, and the player who secured the name Hammer of Doom never logs back in to the game again after a few months.
Maybe in our fantasy that one player who actually got to name his ship Hammer of Doom became really famous and contributed to the lore. But in reality, the famous HH player only gets to name his ship xxXXHAmm3r 0f d00MXXxx because the name was taken, and the player who secured the name Hammer of Doom never logs back in to the game again after a few months.
February 26th 2021 at 4:06 am
You must have missed the part where dormant names would be released back to be used by active players. I'd rather have my own name of my choosing without being confused with someone else using it on the exact same ship I am flying. That creates too much confusion while at the same time defeating the entire purpose of having a name at all!
Oh! ...and telling a company of Game Devs that they must not understand how an MMO works comes off sounding pretty childish given they not you are building this.
Oh! ...and telling a company of Game Devs that they must not understand how an MMO works comes off sounding pretty childish given they not you are building this.
March 2nd 2021 at 12:11 am
HOW DO I GET A SHIP NAME THAT IS ALREADY USED? DOES CIG PLAN TO RECYCLE INACTIVE NAMES? Once a ship name has been reserved or taken, it will be "locked out" and no one else will be able to use it for that specific series of ship. There are no current plans to recycle claimed names that go unused on active ships, be it from ships sitting in a hangar or ships sitting on inactive RSI accounts. Names on ships that have been reclaimed, refunded, or otherwise deleted will be released back into the naming pool.
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February 26th 2021 at 4:02 am
February 26th 2021 at 4:02 am
March 2nd 2021 at 12:16 am
Players would just recognize the hull ID or the name of the captain in the information they pull up when scanning.
This story you've devised is absolutely unrealistic, idealized silliness.
A ship name is nothing more than a few syllables chosen by the captain and a swirl of paint on the hull - restricting them to one per hull just guarantees that 99% of your interactions with other ships will be, "Oh no! The fearsome 'xX St4r D35troy3r 66 Xx' - Quickly! Flee to the escape pods!"
This story you've devised is absolutely unrealistic, idealized silliness.
A ship name is nothing more than a few syllables chosen by the captain and a swirl of paint on the hull - restricting them to one per hull just guarantees that 99% of your interactions with other ships will be, "Oh no! The fearsome 'xX St4r D35troy3r 66 Xx' - Quickly! Flee to the escape pods!"
March 3rd 2021 at 8:50 pm
"Oh no its the Hammer of doom!"
"Is it the Hammer of Doom with the 3 instead of the e, or the one with two zeros instead of o's?"
"No its the Hammer of Doom"
"oh okay... wait is the name all caps, is the first letter of each name capitalized, or is it the one with all the vowels capitalized?"
"Is it the Hammer of Doom with the 3 instead of the e, or the one with two zeros instead of o's?"
"No its the Hammer of Doom"
"oh okay... wait is the name all caps, is the first letter of each name capitalized, or is it the one with all the vowels capitalized?"
March 14th 2021 at 7:18 pm
Ulf-CIGsaid
Hello,
I'm happy to announce that ship naming and serial numbers will also be available for Anvil Carrack pilots with the upcoming Alpha 3.13 patch. I've updated the OP with the wave info.
I'm happy to announce that ship naming and serial numbers will also be available for Anvil Carrack pilots with the upcoming Alpha 3.13 patch. I've updated the OP with the wave info.
I think it would be nice to have unique names. Why do you think everyone wants an Enterprise or Falcon? Because they have a great story behind their names., wouldn't you want to be the proud owner of the Sledge Hammer, known for Mining the greatest amount of tonnage? Or that Nightingale, an Apollo that has had the highest rescue rate of fellow citizens? And if you can't think of a name, you and 2,000,000+ have each already come up with an unique call sign. They should allow Orgs to have members use "ATTG-Big Boy" style, that would allow more ships with "similar" names. Thanks for reading.
February 24th 2021 at 8:16 pm
Star Citizen's own handle system is made to allow many people to have the same display name, but unique account names, to prevent problems like "xXb0bXx". Why not apply the same fix here? Why encourage people to do that when you've already fixed that problem? If the game is as popular on launch as we'd all like, there will be way too many ships to police it effectively. You already implemented a solution here as well. Non-unique name, unique serial.
If the problem is the bonus for some ships that promised a unique name, why not just let those people select their name first and make those unique and leave the rest of the field open? I love the idea of my ship having a unique name, but people just aren't that creative and many will do whatever it takes to get around the filter, with the result will be a lot of ships flying around with 1337 gamer BS painted on the side so they can be the 500th "Enterprise". You might as well let them make it look natural.
If the problem is the bonus for some ships that promised a unique name, why not just let those people select their name first and make those unique and leave the rest of the field open? I love the idea of my ship having a unique name, but people just aren't that creative and many will do whatever it takes to get around the filter, with the result will be a lot of ships flying around with 1337 gamer BS painted on the side so they can be the 500th "Enterprise". You might as well let them make it look natural.
February 25th 2021 at 7:37 am
"As announced in our recent Roadmap update, we’re introducing ship naming and serial numbers in the upcoming Alpha 3.13 patch. With this feature, select ships can display a player-assigned name and the unique serial number they were assigned at purchase on their hulls.
The names will be unique per hull. For example, there can be several ships named “Shooting Star” but only one 600i, Reclaimer, or 890 Jump with the name."
Sorry but that makes no sense at all.
Why can there by only one unique name per hull / ship type if each ship ALSO gets a UNIQUE serial number assigned to them?
The unique part for ships should be the SERIAL NUMBER as this is the UNIQUE IDENTIFIER - NOT the name, as that is owners choice!
For example there are hundreds auf JENNY privat sailing boats and yachts as they all have UNIQUE ID NUMBER IDENTIFIERS!
By restricting the Name to only one per hull type you create the tpyical MMO problem of 1337-Speak naming:
USS Enterprise
USS ENTERPRISE
USS EnterprisE
USS Enterpr1se
USS ENT3RPR1SE
USS Ent3rpr!se
U5S Ent3rprisE
USS Ent3pr1se
USS 3nterpr1se
USS 3nt3pr1s3
STOPP this before it even starts!
Any ship can have any name given by the player!
Unique ship identifier is its SERIAL NUMBER that CIG assigns!
What should be is (CV = Civilian Vessle):
UEE ENTERPRISE CV - 17589125 is MY ship
UEE ENTERPRISE CV - 45987745 is Hellsings ship
UEE ENTERPRISE CV - 31254819 is LukasGKs ship
Edit :
I mean really CIG - WE have been telling you this exact problem will occure DAY ONE you annouced ship nameing.
Yet you IGNORED IT ALL and proceeded with a system that auto generates the1337-Speak MMO naming issue! Why?
The names will be unique per hull. For example, there can be several ships named “Shooting Star” but only one 600i, Reclaimer, or 890 Jump with the name."
Sorry but that makes no sense at all.
Why can there by only one unique name per hull / ship type if each ship ALSO gets a UNIQUE serial number assigned to them?
The unique part for ships should be the SERIAL NUMBER as this is the UNIQUE IDENTIFIER - NOT the name, as that is owners choice!
For example there are hundreds auf JENNY privat sailing boats and yachts as they all have UNIQUE ID NUMBER IDENTIFIERS!
By restricting the Name to only one per hull type you create the tpyical MMO problem of 1337-Speak naming:
USS Enterprise
USS ENTERPRISE
USS EnterprisE
USS Enterpr1se
USS ENT3RPR1SE
USS Ent3rpr!se
U5S Ent3rprisE
USS Ent3pr1se
USS 3nterpr1se
USS 3nt3pr1s3
STOPP this before it even starts!
Any ship can have any name given by the player!
Unique ship identifier is its SERIAL NUMBER that CIG assigns!
What should be is (CV = Civilian Vessle):
UEE ENTERPRISE CV - 17589125 is MY ship
UEE ENTERPRISE CV - 45987745 is Hellsings ship
UEE ENTERPRISE CV - 31254819 is LukasGKs ship
Edit :
I mean really CIG - WE have been telling you this exact problem will occure DAY ONE you annouced ship nameing.
Yet you IGNORED IT ALL and proceeded with a system that auto generates the1337-Speak MMO naming issue! Why?
February 28th 2021 at 3:26 am
Would ships of the UEE have the modifier UEES for "United Earth Empire Ship" how does the naming nomenclature for ships in this world work? Because for the screenshots of the Idris there is the U.S.S. Stanton... What is the breakdown for the serial numbers? Cause I wanna know.
March 4th 2021 at 8:33 am
CIG have not talked about this. But lets assume each organisation will have an abbreviation of their org name and it is shown as a prefix to the ship name.
For example my org is called "Galactic StarFleet of Pinboardia" its abbreviation is "GSPB" - now I could call a ship "Huckleberry" so it would display on her hull
as "GSPB Huckleberry". Making it a unique name and shows how silly CIG stance of "one unique name per hull type" truly is, as using org prefix alone would
allow for duplicate names. As there can be many ships of same ship hull named "Huckleberry" but they would all have different org prefixes. In case the player
does not belong to an organisation CIG can auto assigen a prefix e.g. based on the players "origin" system - say he chooses to begin his journey in the Terra
system - the prefix might be TER for Terra and its the "TER Huckleberry". Thats just an example so dont get hung up on it. But its a system CIG could use.
For example my org is called "Galactic StarFleet of Pinboardia" its abbreviation is "GSPB" - now I could call a ship "Huckleberry" so it would display on her hull
as "GSPB Huckleberry". Making it a unique name and shows how silly CIG stance of "one unique name per hull type" truly is, as using org prefix alone would
allow for duplicate names. As there can be many ships of same ship hull named "Huckleberry" but they would all have different org prefixes. In case the player
does not belong to an organisation CIG can auto assigen a prefix e.g. based on the players "origin" system - say he chooses to begin his journey in the Terra
system - the prefix might be TER for Terra and its the "TER Huckleberry". Thats just an example so dont get hung up on it. But its a system CIG could use.
February 24th 2021 at 8:47 pm
Please reconsider the "there can be only one with this name" per hull type...
As long as you ALSO show the serial number I don't see any issues with multiple players naming their Reclaimers "Trashcan Punch" or whatever...
You could also consider letting the player know how many ships in total are named the same (when the player is in the process of deciding what to name a ship - before hitting the "save-button" )..
That might discourage a few of the nine million (or so) players who think THEY are the only one who ever thought of naming a ship "Millennium Falcon"
As long as you ALSO show the serial number I don't see any issues with multiple players naming their Reclaimers "Trashcan Punch" or whatever...
You could also consider letting the player know how many ships in total are named the same (when the player is in the process of deciding what to name a ship - before hitting the "save-button" )..
That might discourage a few of the nine million (or so) players who think THEY are the only one who ever thought of naming a ship "Millennium Falcon"
February 24th 2021 at 8:58 pm
Can't agree with this one... We have the serial number to identify a ship. Let the players name their ship how they want. If this makes it into final I'd rather skip on naming my ship at all than go through the pain of getting up with a name and get 100x the error "this name has already been taken".
Also what got stated before with a new grey market for ship names is a valid argument against it as well as ship names like M1ll3N1UM F4LCON.
Compensate the players who bought the right to name their ship first and get over it. This is a stupid decision.
Also what got stated before with a new grey market for ship names is a valid argument against it as well as ship names like M1ll3N1UM F4LCON.
Compensate the players who bought the right to name their ship first and get over it. This is a stupid decision.
February 27th 2021 at 5:39 pm
how will your ship become notorious without a name? who the F* is going to remember "#12351251"
March 3rd 2021 at 8:57 pm
March 2nd 2021 at 6:18 pm
cool cops plate numbers of cars ar good point but like serial ship number 50383262353273826252832846352872827262854937252732 try rimember it he serial number shud go form day when ship be made buy own year right he. i know how i wud do serial numbers / dont wory cig i know need run your brain cells or ask me for help and i do it for you:D exp lvl in game making till 13 till now;) non win vs me no one he
March 2nd 2021 at 6:16 pm
serial number ship shud stey whit ship eawen if it blow up shud be till you melt it down same as car you cne burn it blow up and fix it stil got same number new number means you own two cars and need pay for two tax and insurence so ask me 1 name ship for game plus serial number to be whit ship to life time till owner not melt it down funy ho got serial number 00001 he first ship in sc ! he.
February 24th 2021 at 9:56 pm
Wow, grey marketers are going to love this. I can see the Millenium Falcon and Serenity selling for upwards of $1000
February 24th 2021 at 10:19 pm
The names will be unique per hull. For example, there can be several ships named “Shooting Star” but only one 600i, Reclaimer, or 890 Jump with the name.
This is absolute bullshit since names weren't supposed to be unique (except for the few that were sold as such...which itself was a really stupid idea and we told you so), only serial numbers.
You've opened up a MASSIVE can of worms with this, and I highly recommend you retract it ASAP.
February 26th 2021 at 10:55 pm
We've known about this at least since the 600i concept sale.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/origin-600i-ship-naming-faqs
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/1/thread/origin-600i-ship-naming-faqs
February 24th 2021 at 8:47 pm
We have unique name account , but same display name
Do the same for ship :
"Name account " for the ship = Serial Number
Ship display name = we choose what we want
Why make a SIMPLE thing complicated and ... useless ?
Do the same for ship :
"Name account " for the ship = Serial Number
Ship display name = we choose what we want
Why make a SIMPLE thing complicated and ... useless ?