Please turn off the green sludge in space

please revert the pea-soup sludge and give us the stars back

The new skybox isnt good. I understand wanting to add some color but you could have subtly touched up the original one. And the visible galaxies are just plain dumb.

Edit: The skybox in 3.24.2 is a big improvement. Still not particularly realistic looking with the clouds and galaxies and lack of stars but a good compromise.

The green Skybox.
I find the new, green skybox very disturbing. The feeling of the oppressive, endless emptiness of space has now completely disappeared. Color in space is certainly ok, but it should be limited to atmospheric areas such as planets or nebula regions. Ask yourself why you can see stars, planets and galaxies in the night sky. The answer is because the universe is 99.9% empty, i.e. black. I beg you earnestly. Undo that green skybox and give us back our old, beautiful skybox. Please, please, please. Don't fix anything that doesn't need to be fixed. Please give me back my breathtaking feeling of endless space.

The new skybox is terrible while flying out in space away from any planetary body. Bring back the old one or an upgraded version of the old one that is higher quality.

Edit: Here is a comparison, 3.23 (L) vs 3.24 (R). Honestly all you need to do to make the new skybox good is add more stars and make it darker, then it would look good again. But this clearly isn't an upgrade and I hate looking at it, doesn't feel like i'm in a realistic space game anymore.

A puke green skybox..... really....

There are a variety of more suitable colors to have used that would not have elicited this negative response. Blue, Indigo, Violet and those in the cooler range are generally the go to colors for space in graphic media, even up to turquoise and the blue green side of the spectrum all the way over to red/violet. Straight Green is.... It's just plain ugly for a skybox tint, the specific color you chose is anyway as it seems more on the yellow side of green. It's honestly one of the worst possible colors to pick for this task other than orange. Why.... why would your art team possibly do this? They should know better.

Just to be totally clear, this isn't negative reaction to the change itself. It's not the idea, it's the implementation. Adding color does indeed make things pop visually and stand out in the black so that part is nice, but that green has got to go. Pick another color at random.

The currently issue with the green skybox is not the color itself. Its the poor detail compared to the previous one.

There are some idea for better visibility skybox. Also there is the old one (Picture1 from the 3.23) with blue collor feels good and natural, good for the eye.

Skybox: If you'd just change the color a bit to be more blueish, make the nebula less prominent and the stars brighter, I think it would already make a difference and look more like space. Please, dear CIG, consider it. I'm no artist by any means but I've modified a screenshot to get an idea, but it would still need a bit more stars I think. And less tiny galaxies.

Earring other's hangar elevator's bugs still exists once we enter a ship, i had it with a C1 and a valkyrie.

the game has become completely green space is green all the colors tend towards green it's horrible green universe if squadron 42 comes out with this green filter it will be the laughing stock of the video game world

Green space look so ugly , bring back the original space !

Please do away with the green soup background...it is ugly and it destroys the sense of vastness of space.
I don't care if it makes things stand out more - it destroys the feeling of being in space.

Same for the Qtravel effects - for a while now we can no longer see the stars around the ship, it's all a blue or green color band with tons of special effects.

Please, go with subtle effects, the earlier versions of Qtravel were better.

I'm afraid to log in. I don't know whether this is the final decision to give up the project after 12 years.

When they make something that you see 90% of the time and that is supposed to fascinate you so ugly.

It's really sad.

Just because some people don't have legs, no one is allowed to play football anymore.

Or like here, because some people are of the opinion that they can't see anything, everyone else now has to suffer.

unfounded....

It's been working like this for 12 years. I even got an OLED so I could have the perfect black... and now something like this.

I've been promoting this game for 12 years and it's made it more and more difficult for me because, like the films and series these days, it's broken down for idiots so that even the most idiotic ignorant people can still catch a moment of happiness every now and then... this behavior also destroyed Battlefield .

If you want a large number then you can't look for the lowest common denominator.
you will end with nothing.

I always hope for the best but decisions like these make me believe less and less in success.

Mouldy fish tank vibes are not great, I'm pretty sure most of us would rather not have green space - the fact that the entire skybox is this horrible musty green colour is not the best

Thanks for opening up this thread. So far everything except the new Skybox (background area in space) has been great. The green nebula look makes some sense for Lagrange points with their gas clouds around them but all of space having it is just bizzare and doesn’t look right. It would be greatly appreciated if someone from CIG can explain the thinking behind this move but so far no one I’ve spoken to has liked it and it would be even better if we can revert this change and keep it limited to certain areas.

Please remove space dust in empty space, reserve it for only near objects emitting debri, its very ugly.

2nd:
https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2020/12/Interactive_map_of_the_sky_from_Gaia_s_Early_Data_Release_3

Please replace the ugly ass sin of a space backdrop you have now, since you decided to put some effort on it, and replace it with the real thing. Good lord. We need UI assists from ping, etc, to help see objects in the dark. Not a colored backdrop. This game is presenting itself as a space simulation, so please inform the manager who made this decision, in the nicest way possible, that the current skybox implementation was a bad idea. Then present him with the real thing (link above).

Seriously, the esa image is free for you to use commerically:
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/igo/

the green space is really ugly break immersion compleatly . flying was already made less fun and exciting due to MM .moving slow in space soup isnt fun now its ugly and not fun

Bring the old skybox back. New one is ugly and unrealistic! Its like a damn soup.

The green unrealistic skybox, for me, breaks immersion and suspension of disbelief.

It also robs me of the feeling of darkness of space. Furthermore the backdrop of all those stars in the distance gave me a feeling of vastness of space and therefore freedom.

I'm well aware that Star Citizen is still in development, therefore everything is subject to change. I also know that the goal is to make it realistic and dial it back to fun.

But I have to say, that a green unrealistic skybox does not provide me with "fun" in any way. What it does do, is take away from my enjoyment of the game, breaks immersion and therefore ruins the "fun".

While I agree in general, that the game doesn't have to be realistic in every aspect, for me immersion can only form if the basics of the Star Citizen universe agree with what I know to be real. Examples most are familiar with:

- stars and planets aren't flat
- there is vacuum in space, it is really really cold
- air gets thinner as you go up, which is why jet engines only work up to a certain height, aircrafts can only climb so high, you need a breathing apparatus up there, aerodynamic control surfaces don't work in space, etc.

If these basic principles are violated, then the only reaction I have is: ???
From everything I know about what Star Citizen is supposed to be, this is not it.

Let's assume for a second that there are people here with understanding of basic physics, perhaps have astronomy or astrophotography as a hobby, or are outright Astrophysicists. If these people look at the skybox on a daily basis and every time have the exact same reaction, then that is a problem for them. It is surely a really big problem for me. I'm unable to ignore it.

It's not really about the color green, it is about the hiccup that pulls me out of the immersion of being a person in the Star Citizen universe and back into reality. Suspension of disbelief destroyed.

Please make it realistic with regards to basic principles:

- what you can see, i.e. stars, galactic plane, etc. including their rate of occurence and density
- the brightness of these objects when viewed from the atmosphere of planets and from a space station/cockpit of my space ship
- in general, unless you are near an object that is a source of light or reflects light, space is really really dark

You want a different color scheme?

- Use differently colored atmospheres of planets. Just kindly ask someone what is realistic for what type of planet, etc.
- Use realistic stars

https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/space-science/star-colours

Just, please remember that not all stars allow for habitable planets with atmospheres and that most if not nearly all astrophotography images have been colored and the brightness increased by long-time-exposures (what you can see is not that bright and many smaller stars aren't visible normally), that these don't provide any reference for what it will look like given the human eye as observer. That would be the same level of absurd as the green "fog" everywhere.

If you want to solve the visibility problem, make the cockpit window "active", i.e. let it be technology that

- reduces brightness of objects like the star, so that you don't lose contrast
- identifies and artificially highlights ships or objects of interest in the vicinity

That seem like logical advancements in the future.

I hate the new green space.
I can understand what you tried to do with it, give a color identity to system's space.
But this is not the right solution.
It might have worked on 2010 games, but in Star Citizen it just make the game really uggly.
Graphics was the only thing we really had on Star Citizen because everything else doesn't work.
Now we have nothing.
I beg you, please remove it.

The radar chirp that has been added to the ships is extremely annoying, to the point I'm now playing without sound effects. if any radar would make this sound in real life the operator would say it is broken and needs a repair.

I'm told that the green fog skybox is intended to solve a visibility problem, giving a brighter background for ships to be silhouetted against. Now that you've tried that, please move on to other alternative solutions to that problem. I'm sure you have a list, but here's a few that I can think of.

1) Ambient light on the ships themselves. Y'all know that the Phong lighting model has a term for ambient light, that allows you to brighten the sides of objects that aren't under direct illumination. Try cranking that up, so you can have brighter ships silhouetted against the dark background, rather than vice versa. Sure, it's a cheat, but it's one that far fewer folks would have even noticed, much less objected to.

2) Give ships in the middle distance a pixel-size bright dot. Either pretend that it's reflected light (like I can see satellites in the night sky that are too small to resolve), or pretend that it's my ship's passive sensor painting visual cues.

3) Other visual cues are possible, but bring their own complications. Y'all know about how hostiles are outlined in red in other games (Battletech pops to mind, but I think Baldur's Gate 3, and I bet there are many other examples). You could do that, or something like it. This does add to the already-problematic clutter problem, but that's something you need to fix anyhow. (For the love of humanity, fix the clutter problem!)

4) Night vision mode. Given that you tried fog instead of this, I have to assume that it's not as easy as we all think it is. But maybe it's worth a second look.

5) Leave it alone, and let finding dark things in the dark be a skill. People should learn to approach a fight with the sun at their back, already.

The green sky box has spoilt the visuals, even if Stanton is supposed to be in a nebula it needs toning down, nebulas are only bright from afar, when you are in them the light is spread over such a vast area of space as to be almost to completely undetectable, the black skybox is best.

Make the green space tint an optional thing so I can turn it off!

Other than that, fantastic looking game, can't wait to see all the graphical updates we were meant to already have coming soon(tm)! I particularly can't wait for those sound changes in space, it looked so atmospheric in the citcon presentations last year.

I don't mind a bit of color in the vastness that is space.. but come on this does not look neither good nor realistic.
Take a look at the night sky where there is no light pollution, you will see black, the shaded part of a planet should blend in with the background of space.
My feedback is to tone down the color and bring back the emptiness of space, currently it looks more like subnautica (under water) than a space game.

Obvious green image is current situation, attached a slightly edited version of the same photo where the blacks are black but some of the green goo is kept.